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Old 05-14-2010, 08:07 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Barack Obama got elected because he was a terrific candidate and he was running against an angry old man who selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. His polls reflect the fact that he is not progressive enough.

He signed into law a Republican style health insurance bill that pushes customers to the private sector like the bill Mitt Romney signed in Massachusetts. If he pushed for the "public option" and got it passed, his poll numbers would be much higher.

He'll be fine in 2012 because the Republicans (the Party of "No") have nothing to offer to the voters, but smear
Yeah, despite GOP claims, Obama is NOT that really very far Left - rather (like Bill Clinton) he is a pragmatic Centrist - which is EXACTLY why he appeals to me (though I would have prefered to have a public option too).

Ken
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:07 PM
 
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The ship is not sinking by any means
You silly lefties. This would almost be funny if you folks weren't so busily destroying this country.

See ya in November.
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:08 PM
 
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Come on folks! The poll was conducted by the Washington Post and ABC News. I didn't think either organization was still around.
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Come on folks! The poll was conducted by the Washington Post and ABC News. I didn't think either organization was still around.
And let's not forget what I pointed out earlier. An 11 point advantage for the democrats in the poll.

Any pollster using that kind of partisan ID gap is really not credible.
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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And let's not forget what I pointed out earlier. An 11 point advantage for the democrats in the poll.

Any pollster using that kind of partisan ID gap is really not credible.
Yes, and it simply goes to my insinuation that the WP and ABC have any political credibility. Neither has had news credibility in many years.

Obama and the Dims are in trouble and no amount of biased political rhetoric or polls can cover it up.
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Old 05-14-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yes, and it simply goes to my insinuation that the WP and ABC have any political credibility. Neither has had news credibility in many years.

Obama and the Dims are in trouble and no amount of biased political rhetoric or polls can cover it up.
I shudder to think what the results would be if they used a valid partisan gap.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:44 PM
 
Location: FL
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Yeah, despite GOP claims, Obama is NOT that really very far Left - rather (like Bill Clinton) he is a pragmatic Centrist - which is EXACTLY why he appeals to me (though I would have prefered to have a public option too).

Ken
Couldn't agree with you more.
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Old 05-15-2010, 09:38 PM
 
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Yeah, despite GOP claims, Obama is NOT that really very far Left - rather (like Bill Clinton) he is a pragmatic Centrist - which is EXACTLY why he appeals to me (though I would have prefered to have a public option too).

Ken
Sheesh! How far to the left do you have to be to actually claim Obama is a centrist?
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:09 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Sheesh! How far to the left do you have to be to actually claim Obama is a centrist?
LOL

You don't have to be LEFT at all - you just have to be RATIONAL, OBJECTIVE, NOT BRAINWASHED BY RIGHTWING HATE RADIO. The fact is, people on the Far Left at not happy with Obama at all. This is some of what the Far Left wanted:

Immediate withdrawl from Afghanistan and Iraq
Single Payer Health Care
Support of Gay Marriage

Note that NONE of this was pushed by Obama (along with many other Far Left goals). The fact is, Obama is hardly Far Left - despite what the Rightwing talking heads may say - so, perhaps a better question than yours is:

"How far RIGHT do you have to be to actually claim that Obama is FAR LEFT?"

The truth of the matter is, the Far Left is not that happy with Obama - and THAT says a LOT - since if he WAS pushing a Far Left agenda they wouldn't be unhappy would they?
So, again - ""How far RIGHT do you have to be to actually claim that Obama is FAR LEFT?"

Ken

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