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Old 04-24-2024, 07:26 AM
 
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We have enabled the outcomes to be far far worse.
Worse than street takeovers by youth in Charger Hellcats? I mean the average youth isn't buying $200k Lucid Sapphires to hit the streets with...



Next I'm sure you'll bring up those scary 9000 lb Hummer EVs that are just going to kill everyone, even though they are a rare, limited production vehicle that most people will never see. But yet these much heavier box trucks, in horrible disrepair, driven by guys that simply don't care, are literally ALL OVER running into people:





And I don't know how he did this. Honestly, I'm impressed:

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Old Today, 02:30 AM
 
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The instant power of a high performance EV is something to be experienced. It's awesome. But driving is also about the whole tactile experience. There are few things on earth that sound and feel like a Ferrari going through its gears full throttle.

I once drove a De Tomaso Mangusta, it was sort of a life changing experience. Having all that Ford V8 power behind you in a low slung car was really cool. The same for a '63 Vette I tuned up for a customer. I took it out for a test drive afterwards and floored it at a stand still. The posi traction lurched the car to the left, then to the right, and then I was pinned back in the seat while that hopped up 327 Chevy engine did its thing.

Ever since they went to hybrid cars in F1 I can't stand watching it. Not that long ago the cars had V8's that revved up to 19,000 RPM, and seeing and hearing those cars accelerate w/ about 1-2 seconds between each gear was what racing is all about. Indycar is still pure, and their cars sound like a real race car should sound. Has anyone here watched the Formula E races? That's only good for putting you to sleep. Don't get me wrong, EV's are a revolution, but there is life beyond them too. Horses for courses.
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Old Today, 07:32 AM
 
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The instant power of a high performance EV is something to be experienced. It's awesome. But driving is also about the whole tactile experience. There are few things on earth that sound and feel like a Ferrari going through its gears full throttle.

I once drove a De Tomaso Mangusta, it was sort of a life changing experience. Having all that Ford V8 power behind you in a low slung car was really cool. The same for a '63 Vette I tuned up for a customer. I took it out for a test drive afterwards and floored it at a stand still. The posi traction lurched the car to the left, then to the right, and then I was pinned back in the seat while that hopped up 327 Chevy engine did its thing.

Ever since they went to hybrid cars in F1 I can't stand watching it. Not that long ago the cars had V8's that revved up to 19,000 RPM, and seeing and hearing those cars accelerate w/ about 1-2 seconds between each gear was what racing is all about. Indycar is still pure, and their cars sound like a real race car should sound. Has anyone here watched the Formula E races? That's only good for putting you to sleep. Don't get me wrong, EV's are a revolution, but there is life beyond them too. Horses for courses.
I can appreciate the tactile experience of an engine, but I think it's just a different experience. One of the nice things about EV is being more acutely aware of your surroundings and how the vehicle is reacting with the road. The powertrain is silent enough and free enough of vibration and noise that you can get a really direct feeling for how it's going rather than having it essentially masked by the engine. I think it's a question of whether your driving experience is centered on how the vehicle's powertrain is performing vs more of how it's engaging with the road.

That being said, a quarter mile done that quickly is a pretty visceral experience by itself regardless of powertrain type.
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