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Old 07-06-2012, 02:52 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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Northern Europe: Iceland, Ireland, UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland

Romance countries: Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Monaco, San Marino, Malta, Vatican, Andorra

Central Europe: Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Czech Republic, Liechtenstein

Balkans: Slovenia, Croatia, Kosovo, Serbia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Greece, Moldova

Northeastern Europe: Poland, Ukraine, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, western Russia

I know all of these countries are different and unique, but personally, that's more or less how I would classify them.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: France
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Northern Europe: Iceland, Ireland, UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland

Romance countries: Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Monaco, San Marino, Malta, Vatican, Andorra

Central Europe: Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Czech Republic, Liechtenstein

Balkans: Slovenia, Croatia, Kosovo, Serbia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Greece, Moldova

Northeastern Europe: Poland, Ukraine, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, western Russia

I know all of these countries are different and unique, but personally, that's more or less how I would classify them.
When you make a classification, you need to have a common criterion. You can't use geography and origins in the same classification.
Example: France has Romance origins, but is a western country
Romania has Romance origins but is an eastern country
(so, they are part of the same group if you make a classification according to origins and they are in different groups when you make a classification according to geographic setting.

Also, how can you place Germany or Austria (to name just two) in the North? They are as western as western can be.
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Europe's fractal geography, especially on its southern and northern seas, and lack of a clearly defined eastern border defies geographical classification, except as that oddly shaped (spiked), relatively tiny, even obscure, peninsula on the western extremity of the Eurasian land mass

Rather than a flat map made in some European country or the US, take a look at a globe, or perhaps Google Earth, and turn it upside down and sideways east to west, you see what Europe looks like from another perspective.

Years ago I read one book considered a classic on European history that classified Italy and Austria as central Europe, largely based on WWI alliances.

Again the example of Italy, some of it is more westerly than France, while its eastern extremity is as far east as Slovakia, Turin is closer to London than to Sicily which is closer to north Africa.

Any classification, then, is political, depending on the agenda of the one making the classification. Hence, there are as many geographical classifications of Europe as there are persons with some sort of agenda.

This goes for businesses too: different businesses organize their geographical divisions for Europe differently, some even include Turkey in central or eastern Europe, and so on.

You also may have some luck with cultural classifications, such as language groups (e.g. Celtic, Germanic, Romance, Slavic, Greek), but even that is fraught with controversy, worse religion.

If find it hard to agree with most of your list on any criteria.

What is your agenda for doing this?

Good Luck!
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:42 PM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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I have NO agenda, aside from mental masturbation.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:43 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Northern Europe: Iceland, Ireland, UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland

Romance countries: Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Monaco, San Marino, Malta, Vatican, Andorra

Central Europe: Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Czech Republic, Liechtenstein

Balkans: Slovenia, Croatia, Kosovo, Serbia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Greece, Moldova

Northeastern Europe: Poland, Ukraine, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, western Russia

I know all of these countries are different and unique, but personally, that's more or less how I would classify them.
Even if you put Spain into the northeastern category it wouldn't make your list anymore ridiculous and ignorant, as I'm afraid that's impossible.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:51 PM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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Even if you put Spain into the northeastern category it wouldn't make your list anymore ridiculous and ignorant, as I'm afraid that's impossible.
Explain what's so illogical about it.
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Explain what's so illogical about it.
To be honest I have no idea what is logical about it, or based on what did you make the list.

Maybe try to find out more about the countries or regions you list than their name and the fact that they exist?

Central Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Balkans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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their is no offical classification of any kind , i always class the czech republic , poland and hungary as eastern europe yet im told its probabley still central europe

the only official classification that has full merit is scanadanavia which covers , denmark , sweeden , iceland and norway , or am i mixing up norway with finland , one of them isnt scandanavia , icelenad might also be part of scanadanavia
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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their is no offical classification of any kind , i always class the czech republic , poland and hungary as eastern europe yet im told its probabley still central europe

the only official classification that has full merit is scanadanavia which covers , denmark , sweeden , iceland and norway , or am i mixing up norway with finland , one of them isnt scandanavia , icelenad might also be part of scanadanavia
I'd say Poland is eastern Europe, Hungary is Balkans, and Czech Republic is central Europe. Poland is eastern Europe because it has strong ties to Ukraine and Belarus, Hungary is Balkans because it's strongly tied to Romania and Czech Republic is central imo because of its heavy German influence.
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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their is no offical classification of any kind , i always class the czech republic , poland and hungary as eastern europe yet im told its probabley still central europe

the only official classification that has full merit is scanadanavia which covers , denmark , sweeden , iceland and norway , or am i mixing up norway with finland , one of them isnt scandanavia , icelenad might also be part of scanadanavia
What makes you think that the term Scandinavia is any more "legit" than Central Europe?

I didn't say you can't classify Czech Republic or Hungary as eastern Europe, or that you can't classify Nigeria as a western European country if you wish, I'm just saying its ignorant and ridiculous.
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