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Old 01-01-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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How? Italy isnt really diverse in hair and eye color.. there is diversity but vast majority have pretty dark hair/eyes.. specially when it comes to hair color Its true... I could post many examples of this. I'd say Central/Northern (specially central europe because northern europe leans much more towards lighter colors) europe is quite diverse in hair and eye-color... southern europe and the balkans not really....
Well however in Central Europe are a thing of sexual attraction.
I I don't like immigrants whining about europeans discussing their features.
We discuss our features-traditions ecc..because are our cultural thing..and if I like to discuss the variety of dark brown hair in Italy..or the variety of hair texture in Italy on autoctonous people is my right to do. Because it a a thing of my culture and physical aspect of the original inhabitants of Italy.

 
Old 01-01-2015, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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As i like goo to discuss about the physical aspects of people from all the counties and continents
 
Old 01-01-2015, 04:18 PM
 
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I look "exotic" and I always get the same da*n question no matter what European country I'm in: "What's your ethnicity?". That's usually the first question people ask me before they even ask what my name is. I find it irritating. They usually assume I'm Latino which I'm not. I just don't like their obsession with "ethnicity" when you're exotic looking. My friends are caucasian and they never get asked these dumb questions. My exotic look makes people wonder. It's intrusive to ask someone about their ethnicity.

If you are olive skinned with brown hair & brown eyes, you're automatically regarded as a "foreigner". I'm part French and I couldn't go a week without having someone asking about my ethnicity or where I'm from even though I speak perfect French.

However, I would only get asked this question whenever I spoke in French. When I'd be speaking in English, they wouldn't care to ask this question at all. They'd assume I'm American or Canadian. Strange.
so what are you?

because you don't really look like most White Americans either. So, what are you?

I can't tell. Are you Mexican? or mixed? or Melungeon or something?

are you Jewish?

what are you? huh?
 
Old 01-01-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Jewish people look italian
 
Old 01-01-2015, 11:40 PM
 
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Jewish people look italian
Yes quite a few Jewish might look Italian, nothing wrong with that! Remember Italy, Greece, Bulgaria, Spain, Portugal, Israel are countries which border the Mediterranean Sea. So some similarities between those people might not be surprising. [/quote]
 
Old 01-02-2015, 12:40 AM
 
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Pigmentation doesnt strictly go about latitude but also historical migrations, gene adaptation/mutation, and other population dynamics. You have British Islanders and the people from Ireland who are quite north compared to most european countries, and yet you dont find much blonde people there, mostly dark(er) hair and hazel eyes, at least in compairon with people who are at similar latitude or even down south.
What did you say? The main rule is that pigmentation does go with latitute due to the relationship with UV light. At the higher latitude of the British Isles, Scandinavia and Baltic States, lighter skin colour was advantageous due to comparatively "poor UV light". Northern Europeans development of more lighter skin tones is very much linked to the faster absorption of Vitamin D (vital for health). This also linked to the higher frequency of blonde/blondish or red/reddish hair. All these regions are quite north, the highest frequency of blonde hair and blue eyes is in Scandinavia and also the Baltic States (specifically Estonia) and that of red hair and a very pale skin is in the British Isles (specifically Scotland, Ireland, northern England). Both British and Irish as a whole tan less than the Scandinavians and Balts. It is a fact that the majority of the British and Irish folks have brown hair and not dark hair, and the commonest eye colour is blue not hazel/brown. Over-all according to the ScottishDna Project and the Blue Eye Project most recent studies (2014), the over-all distribution for of eye colours in Great Britain are 48%(blue), 30%(green) and 22%(brown). Thus if we calculate the total for light eyes (blue+green tones) is equal to 78%, this means more than three-quarters of the population have light eyes! So that well within their latitude requirements. The Irish have an over-all higher frequency of blue eyes than the British (over 50%). Also note that the frequency of pure blue eyes in Norway is 55%, though Norwegians usually have lower frequencies of brown eyes than the British. Nevertheless to call the British and Irish "dark", is only due to lack of information.

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Old 01-02-2015, 12:44 AM
 
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How? Italy isnt really diverse in hair and eye color.. there is diversity but vast majority have pretty dark hair/eyes.. specially when it comes to hair color Its true... I could post many examples of this. I'd say Central/Northern (specially central europe because northern europe leans much more towards lighter colors) europe is quite diverse in hair and eye-color... southern europe and the balkans not really....
Despite the fact that Italians are over-all a Mediterranean country and are as a rule darker than Northern Europeans,it doesn't stop it from being diverse. North Italy is still somewhat more light or blonde-haired and bluer-eyed than South Italy.

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Old 01-02-2015, 12:55 AM
 
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What did you say? The main rule is that pigmentation does go with latitute due to the relationship with UV light. At the higher latitude of the British Isles, Scandinavia and Baltic States, lighter skin colour was advantageous due to comparatively "poor UV light". Northern Europeans development of more lighter skin tones is very much linked to the faster absorption of Vitamin D (vital for health). This also linked to the higher frequency of blonde/blondish or red/reddish hair. All these regions are quite north, the highest frequency of blonde hair and blue eyes is in Scandinavia and also the Baltic States (specifically Estonia) and that of red hair and a very pale skin is in the British Isles (specifically Scotland, Ireland, northern England). Both British and Irish as a whole tan less than the Scandinavians and Balts. It is a fact that the majority of the British and Irish folks have brown hair and not dark hair, and the commonest eye colour is blue not hazel/brown. Over-all according to the ScottishDna Project and the Blue Eye Project most recent studies (2014), the over-all distribution for of eye colours in Great Britain are 48%(blue), 30%(green) and 22%(brown). Thus if we calculate the total for light eyes (blue+green tones) is equal to 78%, this means more than three-quarters of the population have light eyes! So that well within their latitude requirements. The Irish have an over-all higher frequency of blue eyes than the British (over 50%). Also note that the frequency of pure blue eyes in Norway is 55%, though Norwegians usually have lower frequencies of brown eyes than the British. Nevertheless to call the British and Irish "dark", is only due to lack of information.
British people tend to be darker featured than Other Northern Europeans, you dont need to have a science degree to account for that. And I was talking about hair/eye color which tends to be dominant among british people in comparison to other northener ethnicities. You also have here and there Brits who dont have that white skin, in fact some are quite tan just like everywhere in europe.

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Old 01-02-2015, 12:57 AM
 
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Despite the fact that Italians are over-all a Mediterranean country and are as a rule darker than Northern Europeans,it doesn't stop it from being diverse. North Italy is still somewhat more light or blonde-haired and bluer-eyed than South Italy.
80% of people in italy have dark hair.. yes there are multiple hair colours, however those within the dark spectrum are fairly overrepresented.

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Old 01-02-2015, 02:36 AM
 
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British people tend to be darker featured than Other Northern Europeans, you dont need to have a science degree to account for that. And I was talking about hair/eye color which tends to be dominant among british people in comparison to other northener ethnicities. You also have here and there Brits who dont have that white skin, in fact some are quite tan just like everywhere in europe.
Well maybe you need a Science degree. Depending on what is defined as "dark-featured" and what you define as Northern Europe too. In terms of hair colour, the British would on average have less blonde hair than Scandinavians but not any different than other Northern Europeans where brown hair is also the commonest hair colour. At the same time, there are far more red-headed people among the British than any other Northern European people. In terms of eye color, they are similar to other Northern Europeans, with the Irish and Scottish not that much different from Scandinavians, despite the fact that they are usually less blonde. In terms of skin color, truly fair or very pale skin is more frequent among British Islanders(especially those of Celtic ancestry like the Irish), this is linked to the higher frequency of red hair. This doesn't mean that all have that truly fair skin, but most do. Actually a report released by the Irish Ministry of Health in 2013, states that over 75% of the Irish population the "Celtic skin type". People of this skin type have a fair complexion, light-coloured hair (red,blonde,brown), and blue or green eyes. They freckle and burn easily. They tan with difficulty or not at all. They are most at risk of skin cancer. The so-called "Celtic skin type" here refers to skin phototype I and II on the FitzPatrick Scale. The Frequency of these skin phototypes among the Irish are much higher than even among the Scandinavians (such as Swedish, Danes, Norwegians, Icelanders) and Finnish people. So I think, it is foolish or ridiculous to call them dark-featured.

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