Why do so many people from the British Isles look southern european? (country, black)
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loooool, the earth is 25,000 (twenty five thousand miles) around and the French border is 20 miles from the English one!!!! Yet you seem to think that they are not situated in the same area!!!!
We are situated in the same area in the world (called "Europe"), but not in the same place in Europe, that's it. Not all Europe places has the same looks, that's as simple as that.
Europe is realively small but varied my friend! And the most visible differences physical differences mostly following a north/south axis.
Do you really think that Germany and Italy are situated in the same area of Europe?
The north/south difference between Germany and Italy is the same as between France end the UK. Do you think the nordic-looking Germans could pass in Italy as typical locals?? Be serious my friend.
France gravity center is situated 800km further south Britain's gravity center. That is the same difference as between Germany and Italy; or between Greece and Hungary. Why would you want at all price those countries having similar looking population??
The north/south difference between France and UK is the same as between Spain and Morrocco. Do you really think that Spanish and Morrocan population look alike? Some might, most Spanish canno't pass for being Morrocan end inversely too. I do not think Spaniards or Morrocan would ba as angry as you are with the fact that some Spanish can't pass for being Morrocan, or some Morrocans can't pass for being Spanish... Once again, why does this fact bother you?
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Originally Posted by easthome
I am sorry my friend but I am afraid that we are close neighbours as much as we both dislike the idea its a reality you are going to have to get used to!!
Contrarily to you, I do not dislike the idea, it is just that most french people are much closer neighbours to Spanish, Italians, Swiss, southern Germans, Than to the southermost areas of the UK...
I find it nice that in Europe, it is possible, within a few hours to get into a different part of Europe.
Just having the northernmost area of a country relatively close to the southermost areas of another doesnt' mean that we are in the same area of Europe... France has 8 other countries closer to us than Britain is (we have long borders with): Spain (longest border); Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Luxembour, Monaco... The UK is not closer to us than the Netherlands are... The far south of britain is not far from the northermost parts of France, the same way the far south of Spain is not far from the far north of Morrocco... that doesn't mean those places are in the same area. Spain and Morrocco are not even in the same continent..
France is not just Calais and its surroundings... This is something you really have difficulties to understand: France goes much further south than Calais, and Britain goes much further north than Dover...
Britains lie between 50°N and 59°N (latitudes of Netherland/northern Germany to southern Sweden!)... France between 41°N and 51°N (latitude of central Italy (Lazio) to central Germany) this is not the same place in Europe...
Last edited by Rozenn; 06-18-2013 at 01:59 PM..
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Are you crazy? Spaniards are not much different from Portuguese, and many Italians especially northern ones are lighter on average than Spaniards. The Basques are on similar to northern Italians in pigmentation. Sardinians are very dark compared to European standards, are indeed darker than the Portuguese or Spanish average. Piemonters in the north could be even lighter than Basques. The pictures below are examples of Spanish children. In both pictures, the children are under the age of ten years old. The second picture shows beautiful angels from Catalan, Spain. General pigmentation of Spaniards is no different from their southern neighbors.
In terms of Y-Dna haplogroups, the Spanish total R1b frequency is 69%, Portugal's 56% and Italy is 49%. Their R1b subclades are mostly different from those found in Northern Europe. Nevertheless, Italy seems to have a larger Middle-Eastern component than that of Iberia. Haplogroups such as J and G accounts for 20% and 7% respectively, while in Portugal 12.5% and 6.5% and Spain 9.5% and 3%. This is perhaps due to the fact that Italy is closer to that region and also that the Ancient Roman Empire extended into those areas. R1b has nothing to do with what you wrote such as conquest, that's pure foolishness! The Viking conquered British Isles, Normandy, settled Iceland, Faroes Isles and reached the New World well the British/French/Spanish did!
are u ignorant? according to modern DNA genetic research, portuguese are very different from spaniards.. and again according to the same DNA research, spaniards from the north are whiter than italians from the north. the basques of spain are far whiter than northern italians.. italians and portuguese have been found to be the darkest skinned peoples in europe and dont meet the same caucasian standards in europe. the badques and northern spabiards may even be lighter skinned than many english and far whiter than italians. the pictures below are exanples of 2 popular italian people. in these images, we see joe torre and leon panetta. these italians dont seem to meet white european standards. italian skin tones are very different from the rest of europe.
In terms of critical R1B in the most concentrated region, england has the highest amount (92.3%) followed by spain (87.1%), france (80.5%), portugal (46.2%) and italy (45%). R1B follows a pattern of genetic migration from spain to england, as proven through research. italy seems to be more genetically tied to the middle east, the largest in europe. and to quote u, "Haplogroups such as J and G accounts for 20% and 7% respectively in Italy, while in Portugal 12.5% and 6.5% and Spain 9.5% and 3%." this is due to the high roman admixture for more than 1,000 years before, during and after the roman empire in the african and middle eastern regions during the roman empire. R1B has been also called the 'Atlantic Gene' by some.. and it has the shared genetic characteristic in its self-fulfilling prophecy of world conquest. your view against it is pure ignorance! the english, french and spaniards established the 1st true world empires. R1B is genetics that unveiled these peoples' potentials. the same nations responsible for the world conquest of the new world are the same ones with the highest R1B concentrations in europe. the correlation is undeniably strong and has been proven.
http://www.eupedia.com/images/conten...ogroup_R1b.gif The highest concentrations of R1b are not in England but in Ireland, Basque Country, Aquitaine and Catalonia, the only regions in England with more than 80 percent are Wales and Northern Scotland. Many Italians descends from Middle Eastern and Greek slaves and civil servants existing during the roman empire. Portugal had a large black population that was assimilated. Spain had also minorities but the Inquisition was not prone to diversity precisely.
We are situated in the same area in the world (called "Europe"), but not in the same place in Europe, that's it. Not all Europe places has the same looks, that's as simple as that.
Europe is realively small but varied my friend! And the most visible differences physical differences mostly following a north/south axis.
Do you really think that Germany and Italy are situated in the same area of Europe?
The north/south difference between Germany and Italy is the same as between France end the UK. Do you think the nordic-looking Germans could pass in Italy as typical locals?? Be serious my friend.
France gravity center is situated 800km further south Britain's gravity center. That is the same difference as between Germany and Italy; or between Greece and Hungary. Why would you want at all price those countries having similar looking population??
The north/south difference between France and UK is the same as between Spain and Morrocco. Do you really think that Spanish and Morrocan population look alike? Some might, most Spanish canno't pass for being Morrocan end inversely too. I do not think Spaniards or Morrocan would ba as angry as you are with the fact that some Spanish can't pass for being Morrocan, or some Morrocans can't pass for being Spanish... Once again, why does this fact bother you?
Contrarily to you, I do not dislike the idea, it is just that most french people are much closer neighbours to Spanish, Italians, Swiss, southern Germans, Than to the southermost areas of the UK...
I find it nice that in Europe, it is possible, within a few hours to get into a different part of Europe.
Just having the northernmost area of a country relatively close to the southermost areas of another doesnt' mean that we are in the same area of Europe... France has 8 other countries closer to us than Britain is (we have long borders with): Spain (longest border); Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Luxembour, Monaco... The UK is not closer to us than the Netherlands are... The far south of britain is not far from the northermost parts of France, the same way the far south of Spain is not far from the far north of Morrocco... that doesn't mean those places are in the same area. Spain and Morrocco are not even in the same continent..
France is not just Calais and its surroundings... This is something you really have difficulties to understand: France goes much further south than Calais, and Britain goes much further north than Dover... please go in a bookstore and buy you an Atlas if you just can't understand this simple fact.
Britains lie between 50°N and 59°N (latitudes of Netherland/northern Germany to southern Sweden!)... France between 41°N and 51°N (latitude of central Italy (Lazio) to central Germany) this is not the same place in Europe...
lol Marseille is 43 degrees North (FORTY THREE), thats further North than those great 'souther' cities of Chicago or New York! lol it lies on the same latitude as Toronto!! I am sorry but France is a Northern country, now you may like to think that France is some sort of 'tropical paradise' but at between 40 and 51 degrees north means it isnt true! Now like I have asked a dozen times show me this 'British look' that you told me is IMPOSSIBLE to find in France. If you can't show me then describe it to me, is it eyes? ears? noses? mouths? Do you honestly believe there is nobody blond or redheaded in the whole of France!!!? Are you seriously all dark skinned dark haired because of the increadible strength of the sun at 45 degrees North? lol
Look this 'pure breed' nonsense died out with the Nazis, I am sorry to say that the Caucasions living in Europe are all the same ethnicity whether you like it or not, as a French caucasion you are NO DIFFERENT to an English, German, Austrian, Belgian caucasion.
Please, once again, read what is said on my post, and not you'd like to find in them... :
That Europe is a human continuum is precisely the inverse of the nazis idea that Europeans were supposed to be a "pure breed race"...
The nazi Idea was precicely that Europe was supposed to be originally a same "ethinicity" with the same looks all over as you claim!
This idea that Europeans are all part of a unique identical "Caucasion" physical "ethnicity" (I thought it was said Caucasian) is precicely what dies out with the Nazis (excepted that this outdated human classification is still used in Anglo countries...).
Europeans, like any other people on earth are part of a genetic continuum since ever, and inside Europe there are as much variations as anywhere else in the world. There are not scientific limits between what is 'caucasian" and what is not, and in the same time considerable genetic variations between the so-called "Caucasian" population; I'm sorry but Andalucians and Finish are both classified under this umbrella terms... Will you say there are no differences between their looks? Be serious a little bit, the idea that all Europeans form one unique same ethnicity is precisely those typical racialist theories the nazis were fond of... blownd by modern genetic science since a long time...
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Originally Posted by easthome
You seriously expect people to believe that blond Frenchmen dont exist!!!
Nobody said "blond" people do not exist in France. Dark blond do exist, but people as nordic looking as the people on the picture I posted are very unlikely to be found outside of northern European countries. it is not difficult to understand.
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Originally Posted by easthome
You also seem to think that Britains are somehow interbred and 'different' to the rest of Europe when in fact Britains are a mix of (firstly) Caucasian tribes from accross the continent and more recently a mix of people from accross the world.
Once again, there are plenty of different "Caucasian" populations all over Europe, with different looks. Britain has its own specific coctail. Why do you think all Europe sould have the same looks? Is that your old fashionned "Caucasion" theory ?
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Originally Posted by easthome
Now if you are going to post ludicrous comments like 'Britains have a look that is impossible to find in France' or if you are going to claim that you can spot Britains from their physical appearance I think you ought really to have something to back up such a 'grand' statement!
will you finally told me what is so annoying that there are many British people that hardly pass fo being french. Will you tell us what is your problem about that? (as you notice the numerous other British posters here do not want that British population would be similar to french one... why would you? is it in your mind better to look "southern" than to look nortern? Come one, every looks are OK, stop your foolish anti-nordic racism)
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Originally Posted by easthome
And if you don't have anything to back up what you say then please refrain from posting insulting posts about how I don't know the French way of spelling Bridget (and why the hell should I anyway??)
There is nothing insulting... pelase don't be so sensitive about everything I can say.
It was just amused me how you wish so much that french should be like British, that you even came with Anglicizing the french name "Brigitte". that's so revealing... Cool down and deal with the real word...
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lol Marseille is 43 degrees North (FORTY THREE), thats further North than those great 'souther' cities of Chicago or New York! lol it lies on the same latitude as Toronto!!
LOL..... We are speaking about north/southern in EUROPE !! obviously in the world scheme France is a northern country, as the whole Europe is... Including Greece, southern Italy and Spain are in line with the northern USA...
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Originally Posted by easthome
I am sorry but France is a Northern country, now you may like to think that France is some sort of 'tropical paradise'
The tropic areas began south of the Sahara desert. Nodoby would claim that France is tropical! LOL !! how funny.
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Originally Posted by easthome
Now like I have asked a dozen times show me this 'British look' that you told me is IMPOSSIBLE to find in France. If you can't show me then describe it to me, is it eyes? ears? noses? mouths?
Are you joking?? I've already shown you 1 000 000 times those pictures illustration of those features. are you blind or just completly ****** !
by the way, where are you sources that revealed that France and Britain has the same looks? I'm still waiting! I'd be curious.
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Originally Posted by easthome
Do you honestly believe there is nobody blond or redheaded in the whole of France!!!? Are you seriously all dark skinned dark haired because of the increadible strength of the sun at 45 degrees North? lol
If there are as many french people with as northern looks as those British I posted, you should be able to post me hundred of exemples... Is bardot (a false blond) the only one you've found?? lol
The part of Europe situated in the 40° 's has not as nordic looking people as there is in northern Europe, that is just the way it is, deal with it and you'll sleep better...
PS: if there are northern European looking people in Chicago and New York it is because those places have been settled by people from northern Europe: England, Ireland, Germany, etc. lol! I was amused by your exemple...
Last edited by Rozenn; 06-18-2013 at 02:01 PM..
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LOL..... We are speaking about north/southern in EUROPE !! obviously in the world scheme France is a northern country, as the whole Europe is... Including Greece, southern Italy and Spain are in line with the northern USA...
do you need some medicines? The tropic areas began south of the Sahara desert. Nodoby would claim that France is tropical! LOL !! how funny.
Are you joking?? I've already shown you 1 000 000 times those pictures illustration of those features. are you blind or just completly ****** !
by the way, where are you sources that revealed that France and Britain has the same looks? I'm still waiting! I'd be curious.
If there are as many french people with as northern looks as those British I posted, you should be able to post me hundred of exemples... Is bardot (a false blond) the only one you've found?? lol
The part of Europe situated in the 40° 's has not as nordic looking people as there is in northern Europe, that is just the way it is, deal with it and you'll sleep better...
PS: if there are northern European looking people in Chicago and New York it is because those places have been settled by people from northern Europe: England, Ireland, Germany, etc. lol! I was amused by your exemple...
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT THERE IS A BRITISH LOOK THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN FRANCE!!!! Is this not clear enough for you???????? You can't prove it because its rubbish!!! so instead you start warbling on about god knows what else - THERE ARE BLOND HAIRED FAIR SKINNED PEOPLE IN FRANCE!!!! there is NO British look that does not occure in France - simples. now if you know different instead of harping on about Bridget Bardot and god knows what else please TELL ME what is this 'unique look that Britains have' that YOU told me is impossible to find in France? And then give me some proof that what you say is true and not just 'your ridiculous opinion'. Geeeeeeeeez.
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT THERE IS A BRITISH LOOK THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN FRANCE!!!! Is this not clear enough for you???????? You can't prove it because its rubbish!!! so instead you start warbling on about god knows what else - THERE ARE BLOND HAIRED FAIR SKINNED PEOPLE IN FRANCE!!!!
Nobody in France has the level of light features of Prince harry, Richard Branson, and the other exmples I gave... That's as simple. I already told you this thousands of time in each post I reapeat the same! : it is even more precise than just saying "light features" since I GAVE you since the begining reals PRECISE EXEMPLES of those looks on REAL PERSONS. If you are enable to see those picture and notice what features thay have I can't do nothing for you... you are really mad on this, I'm sorry.
PS: Since i've gave my answers I'm still waiting for yours on:
- Your exemples of french people with those levels of light/nordic/whatever you like to call them features that you claim to exist in so many french people... must be easy for get since you believe that french people look like British...
- the scientific studies that reavealed that french and British people are similar, on which you base you "belief"
- the reason why it would bother you that french and british do not look alike...
- The reason that make you think that French would be looking like the British.
We'll continue the discussion when you'll be able to give me these elements, I'm tired of repeating the same things on each post! Good bye and good luck.
Nobody in France has the level of light features of Prince harry, Richard Branson, and the other exmples I gave... That's as simple. I already told you this thousands of time in each post I reapeat the same!
So? But plenty of British are darker complexions than those examples and similar to many French people. Countries have an overlap.
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Originally Posted by french user
- Your exemples of french people with those levels of light/nordic/whatever you like to call them features that you claim to exist in so many french people... must be easy for get since you believe that french people look like British...
- the scientific studies that reavealed that french and British people are similar, on which you base you "belief"
- the reason why it would bother you that french and british do not look alike...
- The reason that make you think that French would be looking like the British.
Again, why only focus on lightest features?
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Cool down and deal with the real word...
