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Jobbik is not representative of all Hungarians. However, they speak the loudest and the most extreme, and are willing to do bad things. This is why many people worry about their safety.
I think intimidation is their objective, nothing else.
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Originally Posted by green_mariner
Greeks and Hungarians were sent to the camps.
Actually, Hungarians were his allies and while he invaded Greece, had much appreciation for Greeks.
Even so, it is important to learn from history. Nazism is an ideology that has advocated violence and genocide.
Ofcourse. Anyway, not all xenophobes are equally dangerous. There are the real nazi who planned or dream of genocide, like hitlerists and fascists in the past, stormfront, neonazis, kkk and others today, that are insane.
Then, there are those nationalist like jobbik that are considerably less insane and less violent, they just want to intimidate.
And then are those like geert wilders who are not extremist but populist.
Ofcourse. Anyway, not all xenophobes are equally dangerous. There are the real nazi who planned or dream of genocide, like hitlerists and fascists in the past, stormfront, neonazis, kkk and others today, that are insane.
Then, there are those nationalist like jobbik that are considerably less insane and less violent, they just want to intimidate.
And then are those like geert wilders who are not extremist but populist.
I've heard some of Geert Wilders stuff. I don't agree with alot of what he says. However, I'm not scared of him. I'm scared of those who advocate violence. The likes of Jobbik scare me. Many have used intimidation. The fact that they would want to intimidate people would make me watch out for them.
Ofcourse. Anyway, not all xenophobes are equally dangerous. There are the real nazi who planned or dream of genocide, like hitlerists and fascists in the past, stormfront, neonazis, kkk and others today, that are insane.
Then, there are those nationalist like jobbik that are considerably less insane and less violent, they just want to intimidate.
And then are those like geert wilders who are not extremist but populist.
Yes, Geert Wilders shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as groups like Jobbik. Their ideologies are entirely different. Geert Wilders is not anti-immigrant as such (he is of Indo descent and his wife is Hungarian), he is just against the spread of Islam in Europe. For comparison, this is his view on Israel:
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Wilders lived in Israel for two years during his youth and has visited the country 40 times in the last 25 years.
Wilders stated about Israel: "I have visited many interesting countries in the Middle East – from Syria to Egypt, from Tunisia to Turkey, from Cyprus to Iran – but nowhere did I have the special feeling of solidarity that I always get when I land at Ben Gurion International Airport." Dutch public TV channel Nederland 2's daily news programme Netwerk reported that numerous American supporters of Israel financially supported Wilders' Party for Freedom (PVV) and openly approved of his message towards Islam and Islamic terrorism. Wilders told an audience during the report that "We [in the West] are all Israel". He has also said "Israel is the West's first line of defence" against what he perceives to be a threat posed by Islam.
What they have in common is finding a scape goat to blame all their country's problems on. No matter what the issue is, Wilders will find a way to blame the Muslims (although he seems to have found a new target in the EU). He will go out of his way to offend as many Muslims as he can, comparing the Quran to Mein Kampf, proposing a "rag tax" for women who wear headscarves, saying Jordan should be renamed Palestine, etc. He conveniently glosses over all the human rights abuses Israel is committing and all the atrocities that are mentioned in the Bible (Old Testament). He is out to divide the population just like these nationalist politicians are, but that's where the similarities end.
It's hard to be scared of a guy like this:
He gets mocked all the time (even in Parliament by other politicians), especially for his ridiculous blonde hair. Google his name and you'll find lots and lots of parodies
Yes, Geert Wilders shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as groups like Jobbik. Their ideologies are entirely different. Geert Wilders is not anti-immigrant as such (he is of Indo descent and his wife is Hungarian), he is just against the spread of Islam in Europe. For comparison, this is his view on Israel:
What they have in common is finding a scape goat to blame all their country's problems on. No matter what the issue is, Wilders will find a way to blame the Muslims (although he seems to have found a new target in the EU). He will go out of his way to offend as many Muslims as he can, comparing the Quran to Mein Kampf, proposing a "rag tax" for women who wear headscarves, saying Jordan should be renamed Palestine, etc. He conveniently glosses over all the human rights abuses Israel is committing and all the atrocities that are mentioned in the Bible (Old Testament). He is out to divide the population just like these nationalist politicians are, but that's where the similarities end.
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