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I love the focus on evil European Nationalists in this thread.
Looking at crime statistics they probably not even represented at all in Europe.
However looking at crime rates for Muslim radicals and other associals including "antifa" and other red factions, this statistic becomes overrepresented.
Yet no mention of them in this thread.
I guess limiting evil to fascists who don't even exist since 1945 makes some here feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Even if there was a single lone fascist in one European country, they'd manage to point the finger at him for all society ills.
Oh but the politicians dont do much when Muslims breach secularism by advocating hate in the streets, or openly occupying a street to pray, or throwing acid on the face of young girls which I read just about everyday in daily newspaper on my home.
But nooo. This is all irrelevant because the fascist beast is threatening Democracy!!
OK now your talking! Yes, I'm guilty as charged, proudly holding most all modern day conservatives in great contempt even if they are family. The Republican party has been illigimate/all about destroying the 'other' party since roughly Monica Lewinski was suckling Bill Clinton.
Conservatives time and time again show a selfishness, disdain for science, disdain for nature, disdain for America as an organization (the gov't, except a pass is given to the military), disdain for active behavior even. An unwillingness to look at the future while misinterpreting the past. Modern US conservatism is a character flaw.
So you must remember that the bigotry I show as an individual and applied just to my daily life is meaningless as long as I don't commit any crimes. But the bigotry the Republican party shows in leadership of the country is damaging in many ways.
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I love the focus on evil European Nationalists in this thread.
Looking at crime statistics they probably not even represented at all in Europe.
However looking at crime rates for Muslim radicals and other associals including "antifa" and other red factions, this statistic becomes overrepresented.
Yet no mention of them in this thread.
I guess limiting evil to fascists who don't even exist since 1945 makes some here feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Even if there was a single lone fascist in one European country, they'd manage to point the finger at him for all society ills.
Oh but the politicians dont do much when Muslims breach secularism by advocating hate in the streets, or openly occupying a street to pray, or throwing acid on the face of young girls which I read just about everyday in daily newspaper on my home.
But nooo. This is all irrelevant because the fascist beast is threatening Democracy!!
FWIW, I consider myself conservative and dislike a lot of what is done by the Left. If there are Communist thugs glorifying Lenin, Stalin, and Che Guevara, I oppose that. I oppose people harassing religious believers and desecrating houses of worship. I am against the rise of atheism too.
FWIW, I consider myself conservative and dislike a lot of what is done by the Left. If there are Communist thugs glorifying Lenin, Stalin, and Che Guevara, I oppose that. I oppose people harassing religious believers and desecrating houses of worship. I am against the rise of atheism too.
I love the focus on evil European Nationalists in this thread.
Looking at crime statistics they probably not even represented at all in Europe.
However looking at crime rates for Muslim radicals and other associals including "antifa" and other red factions, this statistic becomes overrepresented.
Yet no mention of them in this thread.
I guess limiting evil to fascists who don't even exist since 1945 makes some here feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Even if there was a single lone fascist in one European country, they'd manage to point the finger at him for all society ills.
Oh but the politicians dont do much when Muslims breach secularism by advocating hate in the streets, or openly occupying a street to pray, or throwing acid on the face of young girls which I read just about everyday in daily newspaper on my home.
But nooo. This is all irrelevant because the fascist beast is threatening Democracy!!
I know that radical Muslims have caused many problems, and needs to be dealt with. That being said, fascism has also been linked to violence. Nazism is basically fascism, and look at the violence that came from that. Fascism looks at violence and imperialism as a way to achieve national rejuvenation. And you have plenty of Neo-Nazi violence as well. Think about that.
While there are crimes being committed by "red factions", I'm more afraid of the fascist and Neo-Nazi factions. I know that as a Black man, those factions would harm me alot. They are a danger to me.
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I know that radical Muslims have caused many problems, and needs to be dealt with. That being said, fascism has also been linked to violence. Nazism is basically fascism, and look at the violence that came from that. Fascism looks at violence and imperialism as a way to achieve national rejuvenation. And you have plenty of Neo-Nazi violence as well. Think about that.
While there are crimes being committed by "red factions", I'm more afraid of the fascist and Neo-Nazi factions. I know that as a Black man, those factions would harm me alot. They are a danger to me.
We are discussing Jobbik. How many acts of violence committed by Jobbik can you cite?
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“One said to the other, in Hungarian, ‘Look at this guy… what’s on his head? He’s a Jew! Thank God the new government will make sure these type of people won’t walk on the streets.’ I was shocked,” the Budapest native told The Times of Israel, saying the incident was one of the scariest he has experienced.
LOL! Yeah, I'm sure that really happened, because after all, it's very natural for people to speak like that...why not just throw in something about the aforementioned Hungarian suddenly pulling hair clippers out of his pocket, shaving his head, then repeatedly proclaiming "Juden raus!" as he capriciously spray paints swastikas on all neighboring buildings and walls. Might as well go for broke with the hyperbole...
Ofcourse. Anyway, not all xenophobes are equally dangerous. There are the real nazi who planned or dream of genocide, like hitlerists and fascists in the past, stormfront, neonazis, kkk and others today, that are insane.
Then, there are those nationalist like jobbik that are considerably less insane and less violent, they just want to intimidate.
And then are those like geert wilders who are not extremist but populist.
Where does current Israeli leadership fall in this spectrum?
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