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It puts a price on violating international norms. The ruble doesn't have to be 67 to the dollar and pension ages didn't have to be increased but here we are. Russia doesn't have to be 2nd place in oil and gas production but if its more important to control the border with Ukraine then so be it, but its not free. You think his buddies are happy with the sanctions then go on ahead and ignore all the desperate attempts by Putin to lessen them by any means necessary except compliance.
This isn't much different than Putin attacking Ukraine for not taking a pro-Russian stance. All Ukraine has to do is join the Russian customs union and put pro Russians in power and their "civil war" will disappear.
Is he some five year old, that someone is trying to "modify" his behavior?
What kind of nonsense is this?
The problem with the argument is that they used the obviously staged Skripal incident as the reason. The Brits were obviously incensed that nothing came of the fake Douma chemical attack their White Helmets staged. There is no Russian behavior to modify.
I can see your point Ichoro but there are security concerns also. There's no telling what the loonies in the Ukraine can/would try. This includes ramming the supports of the Kerch bridge or worse.
Ukraine should learn to modify its behavior, treat neighbors as neighbors, don't murder people who disagree with you and act civilized and within sane norms or Russia should teach them a lesson
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I have a co worker from Kazakhstan who previously lived in Russia, Ukraine, and Poland before ending up in the USA. He said Kazakhs are very pro Russian and as many people speak Russian as Kazakh. Is this generally true?
I have a co worker from Kazakhstan who previously lived in Russia, Ukraine, and Poland before ending up in the USA. He said Kazakhs are very pro Russian and as many people speak Russian as Kazakh. Is this generally true?
I have a co worker from Kazakhstan who previously lived in Russia, Ukraine, and Poland before ending up in the USA. He said Kazakhs are very pro Russian and as many people speak Russian as Kazakh. Is this generally true?
I've known some Khazakhs myself and they're all citizens of Russia with family back in the homeland. One guy grew up on the plains and his sister and brother still lived there in Yurts. He was clearly of Ghenghis Kahns clan and not European. Northern Russian people have married southerners. I once saw a woman that was clearly Asian except for her height and her stunning blue eyes. They're pretty much attached at the hip it seems to me.
These *international norms* were created and signed when Russia was at the weakest point, basically heading towards gradual disintegration and ultimately collapse. ( And simultaneously, they happen to unquestionably promote further global domination by the US by the way.)
So any Russian leader following these "norms" is basically accepting this course, as much as his own demise.
Putin is not that dumb to understand it all.
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The ruble doesn't have to be 67 to the dollar and pension ages didn't have to be increased but here we are.
Definitely not, so this brings me back to the burning question - where all the stashed away money ( in Western banks, but mostly in offshore accounts,) and how much is really there? If what these guys are saying that they equal (plus/minus) "300% of Russia’s current national income, or more" - these makes things very interesting, to say the least.
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Russia doesn't have to be 2nd place in oil and gas production but if its more important to control the border with Ukraine then so be it, but its not free.
Nothing is "free" in politics - there is always price to pay.
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You think his buddies are happy with the sanctions then go on ahead and ignore all the desperate attempts by Putin to lessen them by any means necessary except compliance.
As I've said - "compliance" is signing one's own death warrant. Starting with handing Sevastopol naval base to Americans.
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This isn't much different than Putin attacking Ukraine for not taking a pro-Russian stance. All Ukraine has to do is join the Russian customs union and put pro Russians in power and their "civil war" will disappear.
You forget one more important thing: removing all the "American advisers" from Ukraine. Because that's where it all starts.
The problem with the argument is that they used the obviously staged Skripal incident as the reason. The Brits were obviously incensed that nothing came of the fake Douma chemical attack their White Helmets staged. There is no Russian behavior to modify.
I have a co worker from Kazakhstan who previously lived in Russia, Ukraine, and Poland before ending up in the USA. He said Kazakhs are very pro Russian and as many people speak Russian as Kazakh. Is this generally true?
Kazakhs originally were nomadic people, so all these *cosmodromes,* all the oil industry, infrastructure - it was all built by Russians for them. Russians practically took them from the 17th century straight to the 20ieth one.
But if only to listen about the "horrors of communism" and "suppression of the native people by the Russians," of course it will not make sense why Kazakhs would be pro-Russian, and try to keep Russian language ( and Russians) around.
"The territory of Kazakhstan has historically been inhabited by Turkic nomads who trace their ancestry to many Turkic states such as Turkic Khaganate etc. In the 13th century, the territory joined the Mongolian Empire under Genghis Khan. By the 16th century, the Kazakh emerged as a distinct group, divided into three jüz (ancestor branches occupying specific territories). The Russians began advancing into the Kazakh steppe in the 18th century, and by the mid-19th century, they nominally ruled all of Kazakhstan as part of the Russian Empire. Following the 1917 Russian Revolution, and subsequent civil war, the territory of Kazakhstan was reorganised several times. In 1936, it was made the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic, part of the Soviet Union."
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