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Maybe you're not very familiar with homeschooling. Both my daughters homeschool their children and one of them has for several years (the other just ordered their supplies this summer so this is their first year). She and her family are involved with a very large homeschooling network and the children are DEFINITELY not "isolated." There are group activities, different parents teach different classes, they go on field trips, etc. Her children are, without exception, performing above grade level. She uses a classical curriculum, which means that her children began learning Latin in the second grade, and their curriculum is based on classical literature and methodology. They also take music and dance lessons.
No, I'm not, because homeschooling is almost nonexistant here and even the few homeschoolers have to follow exactly the same curricula as the schools or you're bust. They are subjects or serfs for their husbands, cattle.
But your daughters homeschool, so it means they're not working? They're housewives, which is about as respectable as being a mafioso or drug dealer.
For ideological reasons I resent homeschooling and housewifing, and I won't hide it.
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She's asking for ways to commit one or several illegal acts.
I'm sorry - I must have missed the part where she asked for ways to commit one or several illegal acts. Can you please show me where she asked about any of that?
It's not illegal to home school in many European countries. It's certainly not illegal for a family which is visiting legally to do so during the school year and to continue their own school program while on VACATION, which could be for up to 90 days. European school systems and holidays differ from each other, and certainly differ from those of the US. For instance, any American family could arrange to legally visit the EU for several months during the summer with their children not enrolled in ANY school, and there would be nothing illegal about that as long as they entered the EU legally, even if the kids in the countries they were visiting were attending school during that time. It seems to me that she's simply looking at options and gathering information.
However, I'm sure she's scratched Finland off her list by now so you should be able to rest easy. She's not going to invade your country and set up a cult (though I doubt that was ever her intention).
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I'm sorry - I must have missed the part where she asked for ways to commit one or several illegal acts. Can you please show me where she asked about any of that?
It's not illegal to home school in many European countries. It's certainly not illegal for a family which is visiting legally to do so during the school year and to continue their own school program while on VACATION, which could be for up to 90 days. European school systems and holidays differ from each other, and certainly differ from those of the US.
However, I'm sure she's scratched Finland off her list by now so you should be able to rest easy.
She and her family is planning to stay for eight months. For that you need a permanent residence.
Homeschooling has tight restrictions, and if the curriculum says "discuss contraception", you really have to do that.
And yeah, hopefully she did scratch Finland. Maybe there is a god after all. Like Vishnu.
I don't see a one good reason why kids should be homeschooled. Isolated from the others, they're subjects of all kind of indoctrination by their parents, who themselves are not certified teachers. The world is filled with bad parents, and a definitely not the best experts even concerning their own children.
You're very right.
Furthermore children, from a very early age, need to be amongst other children and socialise with them.
In Italy homeschooling is luckily non-existent; besides every kid aged 3+ goes to kindergarten.
And many go to "pre-kindergarten structures" (asili nido in Italian) once they're twelve months old.
The difference between children going to "asili nido" and children staying at home is usually striking: socialising with their peers and being more "independent" from mum and dad is extremely beneficial and boosts their development.
She and her family is planning to stay for eight months. For that you need a permanent residence.
Homeschooling has tight restrictions, and if the curriculum says "discuss contraception", you really have to do that.
And yeah, hopefully she did scratch Finland. Maybe there is a god after all. Like Vishnu.
She said "several months" and when she said "from September to June" she wasn't asking how to do it ILLEGALLY - she's clearly asking for pointers on whether or not it's even feasible - financially, legally, etc. She's researching her options. No need to be so rude and insulting.
People and families move to and work in other countries legally all the time. There are ways to do so - LEGAL ways. Her questions were "how - and is it feasible on this particular budget?"
And whether you agree with her family's legal option to homeschool their American children is really beside the point. A home schooling, Catholic (or any other belief system) family can legally visit the EU and stay for several months if they so desire - and homeschool their kids while they're there on vacation. And pray too...
Maybe you're not very familiar with homeschooling. Both my daughters homeschool their children and one of them has for several years (the other just ordered their supplies this summer so this is their first year). She and her family are involved with a very large homeschooling network and the children are DEFINITELY not "isolated." There are group activities, different parents teach different classes, they go on field trips, etc. Her children are, without exception, performing above grade level. She uses a classical curriculum, which means that her children began learning Latin in the second grade, and their curriculum is based on classical literature and methodology. They also take music and dance lessons.
Nope, not isolated, that's for sure. Home schooling networks are common and widespread and there are many excellent curriculums and programs available. My daughters are both full time home makers who have devoted their time and energy to this endeavor and are doing a great job. In addition to homeschooling, they also raise some of their own foods and are both avid "natural food" proponents. They cook very healthy meals, with their childrens' involvement, on a daily basis. And in addition to the classes, and gardening, and cooking, they have regular physical education with their children. None of the parents or children have one extra ounce of body fat on them and are, without exception, strong and healthy and active. In fact, neither family has satellite TV, though they do have television programming available from other sources. This means that their children don't sit around watching TV for hours - they get outside and play when they're not doing schoolwork or helping around the house.
And if you were lucky enough to ever meet them, you would find them conversational, witty, active, healthy, courteous, and perfectly normal.
OP wants to homeschool in Europe. In some countries it is against the law and parents are being prosecuted.
Homeschooling is one of the questions. It looks like OP has not considered visa, transportation and cost of living in Europe for a family of 10 and thinks of working there from a lap top.
OP wants to homeschool in Europe. In some countries it is against the law and parents are being prosecuted.
Homeschooling is one of the questions. It looks like OP has not considered visa, transportation and cost of living in Europe for a family of 10 and thinks of working there from a lap top.
My point is that if a family is legally VACATIONING in the EU (and that can be up to 90 days), the family can home school their kids during that time. It's not illegal for Americans on vacation to engage in home school activities, anywhere in Europe.
For that matter, even in Germany, with it's stringent home schooling restrictions, US military and diplomatic families can legally home school their children the entire time they legally live there. But that's a whole other scenario.
I have no reason to doubt that the homeschooling of Kathryn's grandchildren is fine, but overall... please put me in the homeschooling skeptics' camp.
While public school systems can be imperfect there is a basic rule which says that all kids have a right to learn A, B and C. Regardless of what their parents think. Kids have basic rights as individual human beings and citizens that (depending on the parents' beliefs) may not always correspond with what their parents feel is best for them.
Homeschooling in many places has become very difficult to control and can be fertile ground for either indoctrination, societal isolation or "family"-related child labour. Often all three.
Not saying all homeschooling families are like that but there is certainly a potential danger in having kids entirely "off the grid" for the first 16 or 18 years of their lives.
I will not go as far as to saying that homeschooling should be banned (it is only a tiny micro-phenomenon where I live) but my sense is they should be kept on a tight leash by the education authorities with mandatory reporting on what the kids have learned and also some form of exams at the end of each year. (Perhaps they do this already - not sure.)
My point is that if a family is legally VACATIONING in the EU (and that can be up to 90 days), the family can home school their kids during that time. It's not illegal for Americans on vacation to engage in home school activities, anywhere in Europe.
For that matter, even in Germany, with it's stringent home schooling restrictions, US military and diplomatic families can legally home school their children the entire time they legally live there. But that's a whole other scenario.
US Military and Diplomatic staff are not "living" in Germany as you should know.
Also, somehow I doubt that there are legions of parents out there who have the ability to teach, at home, the full range of subjects that their kids are required to learn. This is even more critical when they reach high school age.
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