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View Poll Results: Which indigenous European ethnic group is the closest genetically to Sub-Saharan Africans?
Albanians 1 3.03%
Greeks 5 15.15%
Italians 2 6.06%
Russians 4 12.12%
Portuguese 12 36.36%
Spaniards 2 6.06%
French 0 0%
Sicilians 7 21.21%
Macedonians 0 0%
Other 0 0%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-11-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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You are correct put you're going too far back in human history. Do you really think someone from China or Greenland should claim that they are African just like a Black American would?
No, I don't think that. What I'm taking exception to is the near constant talk about who's genetically closest to whom but when it comes to Africans, the tone changes to how distant they are as if they are another species and it seems some may believe they are if I dare be presumptuous.

The other point I'm making is that, if we're in agreement which we seem to be, it would mean that after North Africans and Middle-Easterners, Europeans would be the next closest despite outward appearance which again is unreliable in deciding genetic closeness as is judging by admixture which seems to be everyone's favorite around here. Now watch the strident and very long responses that will be triggered by what I just said.

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Old 10-11-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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I was trying to be sarcastic lol
Plus, I don't see the point, are you trying to underline the fact that having African admixture (whatever this term means) is negative?
I mean, considering what people "with African admixture" accomplished I don't see how.
No, that's what you were thinking.
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Old 10-12-2014, 06:09 AM
 
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The only one is an American that had a genetic throwback to his Black ancestors, but he was born among sympathizers of the Aryan Nation...
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:43 AM
 
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Americans, Aussies ,etc always talking about physical appearance, races and whatnot Europe. Such an obsession..annoying.
They probably go around and point at some mixed race person and think, hmmm I wonder what haplogroups are in this person? Maybe 175920ab, or maybe 9874232z!
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Old 10-12-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Americans, Aussies ,etc always talking about physical appearance, races and whatnot Europe. Such an obsession..annoying.
lol. Who do you think the Americans and Australians learned it from? I think that answer is pretty obvious.
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Old 10-12-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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We are in 2014, and most of the culture and ethnicity in those two countries was imported from UK puritans and Irish catholics. However you dont see Brits asking those questions over and over, its the aussies or americans who keep asking the same, who is whiter, who is blonders, who is more or less related to asia, africa, are italian arab? etc...
It's sort of like a person who comes to a town and contaminates and pollutes the water and then wonders why the people living in that town are suffering the long term effects of that person's actions. Sounds a little familiar doesn't it?

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Old 10-12-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Genetics is VERY COMPLEX, IT IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT SCIENCES TO LEARN, far more than chemistry, physics, and such....

It is IMPOSSIBLE to know which European nation is closer to Sub-saharian Africans because we would have to look at thousands of years of history, cultural interactions, individual people's stories and so on....

I often find funny how a lot of these 20 year olds who participate in forums that talk about races, do not really understand the concept of what race is, and then consider themselves experts on the field of genetics because they go to a stupid forum!!!!

The concept of race is socially constructed.

I can bear with people saying white people, Black people I can bear that.

But calling a group of people "Caucasoid, Mongoloid" or such is stupid.
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Old 10-12-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The concept of race is socially constructed.

I can bear with people saying white people, Black people I can bear that.

But calling a group of people "Caucasoid, Mongoloid" or such is stupid.
Exactly!
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Old 10-12-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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The concept of race is socially constructed.

I can bear with people saying white people, Black people I can bear that.

But calling a group of people "Caucasoid, Mongoloid" or such is stupid.
I'd love it would stop there, nope!
They do even analyse every single gene you have, so that you aren't "Black" but "21,5% Caucasoid,12,5 % Ashkenazi, 27,8 % Armenoid etc".
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Old 10-12-2014, 11:42 PM
 
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I'd love it would stop there, nope!
They do even analyse every single gene you have, so that you aren't "Black" but "21,5% Caucasoid,12,5 % Ashkenazi, 27,8 % Armenoid etc".
There is also no such thing as white or black, really. Those are colonial inventions. Before colonialism, the peoples of Europe only knew themselves as British, French, Spanish, etc. None of this white people this, Mediterranean people that bull****
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