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I see southern Germany / Austria / German Switzerland as a sort of "outisider" in the group of germanic countries of Europe. Because of their location in the center of the continent, the fact they are as more catholic than Protestant, etc. The typical Germanic nations to me are The countries of the north sea and the Baltic sea: those places where Germanic culture originate, with hanseatic influence, dominated with Protestant values, etc: Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, England, Northern Germany... This is quintessentially northern Europe. Southern Germany and Austria belong in another part of Europe, central Europe.
The geographical and historical center of germanic Europe would be somewhere around Denmark
There are other Catholic Germanic areas further North, like Flanders, Southern Netherlands and Rheinland (Catholic majority).
Celtic languages are spoken by some in Wales, Scotland and NI.
Yes, a 20% minority in Wales, and a very small minority in Scotland and NI. The rest speaks a Germanic language as their native language. This is like saying that northern Norway and northern Sweden is not Germanic cause a minority speaks Sami or Finnish.
If England is in Germanic Europe where is Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland? ''Celto-Germanic Europe''?
And where is Citizens of Bergen in Norway? No other city in European history during peacetime have had so much crime, murder, arsons and violence like Bergen during the Hanseatic period. It was Citizens of Bergen and Scottish People VS. the germans. It was like a 100+ year long Balkan war.
Some buildings from the hanseatic period in Bergen:
Not for Norway, but maybe for Sweden. Many Norwegians see Swedes as germans.
Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are of the same origin, we are the original Germanic tribes. Only idiots would assume that "Germanic=Germany", cause the Germanic tribes did not come from Germany, they came from Scandinavia (including Norway), the only part of modern Germany that was Proto-Germanic was the northernmost tip near Denmark, the rest was Scandinavia. It included entire Denmark, as well as the major populated parts of Sweden and Norway.
Proto-Germanic is the common predecessor of Old Norse, and infact all Germanic languages. Norwegian belongs to the North Germanic languages, and so did of course Old Norse. The word Germanic has nothing to do with the nation of Germany.
Here is the range of the original Proto-Germanic Europe, far, far before the Viking age:
Many Norwegians see Swedes as Germans? I have never heard of that, and to be honest, it sounds stupid and I really doubt it would be true. All it seems like after reading your posts here is that you personally has a grudge against Swedes and Danes, combined with an unhealthy obsession with how nations acted in WWII.
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Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are of the same origin, we are the original Germanic tribes. Only idiots would assume that "Germanic=Germany", cause the Germanic tribes did not come from Germany, they came from Scandinavia (including Norway), the only part of modern Germany that was Proto-Germanic was the northernmost tip near Denmark, the rest was Scandinavia. It included entire Denmark, as well as the major populated parts of Sweden and Norway.
Proto-Germanic is the common predecessor of Old Norse, and infact all Germanic languages. Norwegian belongs to the North Germanic languages, and so did of course Old Norse. The word Germanic has nothing to do with the nation of Germany.
Here is the range of the original Proto-Germanic Europe, far, far before the Viking age:
Many Norwegians see Swedes as Germans? I have never heard of that, and to be honest, it sounds stupid and I really doubt it would be true. All it seems like after reading your posts here is that you personally has a grudge against Swedes and Danes, combined with an unhealthy obsession with how nations acted in WWII.
OK then, not many, but atleast some norwegians see swedes as germans. Swedes and germans have many of the same qualities.
Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are of the same origin, we are the original Germanic tribes. Only idiots would assume that "Germanic=Germany", cause the Germanic tribes did not come from Germany, they came from Scandinavia (including Norway), the only part of modern Germany that was Proto-Germanic was the northernmost tip near Denmark, the rest was Scandinavia. It included entire Denmark, as well as the major populated parts of Sweden and Norway.
Proto-Germanic is the common predecessor of Old Norse, and infact all Germanic languages. Norwegian belongs to the North Germanic languages, and so did of course Old Norse. The word Germanic has nothing to do with the nation of Germany.
Here is the range of the original Proto-Germanic Europe, far, far before the Viking age:
But what about all the Spanish, portuguese and italian settlers in Bergen city back in the old days, were they also part of the germanic tribe !?!
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