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Old 01-11-2015, 08:20 AM
 
Location: London
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British politician Enoch Powell gave a speech in 1968 criticising the massive immigration of people of different religion and race into the UK. They were swamping whole districts and eventually towns and cities. He predicted violent upheaval. Since 1968 many have said along the way his predictions were bunkum, until now.
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"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood".
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Old 01-11-2015, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I have lived too long on this planet and will see the end of the UK being just that. I will never get to see London of the 60's. I believe that people should assimilate to the country they are moving too and hold dear its values and cultures. Not going to happen and sadly Powel was right. I will always love you Londoners.....
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Old 01-11-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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British politician Enoch Powell gave a speech in 1968 criticising the massive immigration of people of different religion and race into the UK. They were swamping whole districts and eventually towns and cities. He predicted violent upheaval. Since 1968 many have said along the way his predictions were bunkum, until now.
Rivers of Blood speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood".
You do realise that Enoch Powell was one of the architects of mass immigration when he was Minister of Health in the 1950s.

And he was wrong about violent upheaval.
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:48 AM
 
Location: London
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I do believe you are correct on the first point. However the second point may be bubbling under.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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Religion (and by extension, culture) is an issue. Race is not. People are constantly conflating the two. The need to have a unicultural society is perfectly fair, because culture is what unifies people. The need to have a uniracial society is fascist bunkum.

There are people on all sides (i.e. Western and non-Western peoples) who falsely associate race/ethnicity with culture. The two are loosely correlated but this correlation is not set in stone and is rapidly decreasing.

Multiculturalism is a terrible idea. Immigration of people who can integrate is a good idea.

The recent phenomenon of white, ethnic Europeans converting to radical Islam, and on the flip side, the seamless integration of many Sikhs and Gurkhas into British society, proves my point.

The issue is no longer about immigration - the horse left the barn a long time ago. The issue is how to contain radical Islam.

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