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Old 04-27-2015, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Macao
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The argument, "Why doesn't Europe allow more emigration from the United States"?

I think a few things could be said about this...

1) Vice-Versa applies. Not many Europeans emigrate to the U.S. either (comparative to other nations). Maybe they find themselves too culturally similar or too culturally different to emigrate either way any more?

2) They do! But, the 'others' are much more highly visible, so people focus more on them?

3) Share your opinions...
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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In case of Austria:

- Apparently there aren't that many skilled Americans in shortage occupations or they just don't apply for jobs.
- Language issues. Germans, South Tyroleans and Swiss won't have to learn German and Czechs, Slovaks, Croatians, Serbs and Hungarians have often a pretty good knowledge of German. Let's face it: the average American didn't take German in high school and probably won't do so while living here.
- Reciprocity.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Airstrip 1, Oceania
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In the case of the UK:
The view is that it doesn't matter if you are from the USA, Brazil or Outer Mongolia. If you have skills that are in demand you are in with a chance of getting a work visa, otherwise forget it. It is not in the interests of the UK to allow in unskilled people from any country. There are over 100,000 Americans resident in the UK but the majority are married to a UK/EU citizen.
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Old 04-28-2015, 03:03 AM
 
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the difficulties for Americans to immigrate to Europe are as difficult as for Europeans to immigrate to America. The rules for immigration are basically the same.

If you want a work Visa as an American in Europe, the company in Europe has to explain why they want a American and not a European for that job and the Visa itself costs several thousand EUR/POUND for that company.

I think most Americans are in the UK and Germany. In 2010 there were over 100.000 Americans in Germany and additionally 40.000 Soldiers stationed, more than in any other country besides the US.
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Old 04-28-2015, 03:29 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Worthy of note in this discussion.

1) US/EU capital markets are highly integrated. I could cite many examples, most recently the number of US corporations raising debt capital on eurozone bond markets, US private equity companies buying non-performing eurozone bank debt, US real estate companies (REITs) buying properties in Europe, CapGemini buying iGate, Assicurazioni Generali opening a North America office in New York, not to mention reciprocal direct investments in manufacturing facilities.

2) US/EU are working on a free-trade agreement and most likely it will happen within five years, maybe two.

3) Business executives and government officials are communicating and traveling for meetings across the pond everyday.

3) At the individual level, when there's a will there's a way, but, as mentioned, it's more common for highly skilled and/or married people or people with some other close connection (e.g. family ties, dual passport).

4) When I live in the US, there are many states that I do not visit, when I live in Europe, many states and many regions I do not visit, simply lack of will.
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Old 04-28-2015, 04:17 AM
 
Location: 43,49N Florence-Prato (Tuscany, Italy)
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Both USA en EU are poles of immigration..not of emigration
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Old 04-28-2015, 06:00 AM
 
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The argument, "Why doesn't Europe allow more emigration from the United States"?

I think a few things could be said about this...

1) Vice-Versa applies. Not many Europeans emigrate to the U.S. either (comparative to other nations). Maybe they find themselves too culturally similar or too culturally different to emigrate either way any more?

2) They do! But, the 'others' are much more highly visible, so people focus more on them?

3) Share your opinions...
After you had the pleasure of dealing with USCIS or Auslaenderamt you will be able to answer your question.
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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After you had the pleasure of dealing with USCIS or Auslaenderamt you will be able to answer your question.
Over the years, I have dealt with immigration authorities in the US, Canada/Quebec and Italy, even Greece, I was always treated, for the most part, with courtesy and professionalism, and in any case in accordance with law. Then again, maybe I was lucky and my cases were not too difficult.

Anyway, to answer the question, neither the US/Canada nor Europe wants stuck up, adolescent-minded, middle class drifters and freeloaders, but they do want highly skilled professionals, on the one hand, and desperate low-cost laborers on the other.
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Old 04-28-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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Over the years, I have dealt with immigration authorities in the US, Canada/Quebec and Italy, even Greece, I was always treated, for the most part, with courtesy and professionalism, and in any case in accordance with law. Then again, maybe I was lucky and my cases were not too difficult.

Anyway, to answer the question, neither the US/Canada nor Europe wants stuck up, adolescent-minded, middle class drifters and freeloaders, but they do want highly skilled professionals, on the one hand, and desperate low-cost laborers on the other.
A) Count your blessings.
B) Do you blame them.

C) It looks like OP moved to animal brothels in Europe being used to frighten US voters of liberals. ))))))
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Old 04-28-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The leaders of a couple of bourgeois parties in Denmark have been talking about having different immigration rules for people from different regions (West vs. non-West), but it is not gaining much traction.

Yes, immigration to Denmark from the US is relatively small, based on population size. Most Americans come for a couple of years for specialized work and then leave. It is a vastly different culture than the US and many of the Americans I have known, who intended to make Denmark their new home with a Danish partner, just couldn't adjust to the differences and left, alone.
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