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Old 09-18-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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Russia has gradually turned to the organizational centre of the world political riffraff. Just only St.-Petersburg hosted the mob of Europe’s Right Wing. Today the separatists from every corner of the globe are coming to Moscow.

On Sunday, September, 20th, 2015 in President-Hotel some conference named “Dialogue of the nations. The peoples’ right to self-determination and creation of the multi-polar world” will take place. In this action, which is organized by the Anti-globalization Movement of Russia (AMR), the different separative organizations’ participation is provided. So, there is the Texas Nationalist Movement, North Irish Sinn Fein, the Catalonia Independence Supporters, the Scotland Independence Supporters, separatists of Hawaii, Puerto Rico, representatives of Western Sahara and other regions where separative moods are strong. The representatives of so-called Donetsk People Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People Republic (LPR) will be also expected. However, the participation list is closed in order the states authorities couldn’t bar them.

And it’s needed to tell, those who so desire to take part are enough, because all are inclusive from flight to residing.

I must say some words about the “generous organizer” of world separative meeting.

The Anti-globalization Movement of Russia was registered in spring of 2012, but its work really started a year later when its delegation went to Damascus. And in the first place they presented Bashar Asad the honorary member certificate of the organization. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, former president of Iran, became the following honorary member. Subsequent activity of Movement was disseminated in both Americas to loosen and undermine “den of globalists”.

The Anti-globalization Movement of Russia has financially no problems. It is in favour with Russian National Charity Fund created in 1999 on Putin initiative. Nowadays Fund is the most filled and acts under the protection of Russian President. Just that Fund gave grant of 2 million roubles for separatists’ conference.

The AMR leader, Alexander Ionov is a very interesting person. Together with odious Josif Kobzon he is a presidium member of such organization as “Officers of Russia” that has close ties with the semi-fascist organization “Antimaidan”. Formerly Ionov (together with raging communist Sergey Baburin) was one of leaders of the Committee in Solidarity with Libya and Syria peoples.

The main issue of AMR is to unite all Anti-American forces, without disdaining the separatists of Catalonia or Donbas (for instance radio “Novorossia” is the information sponsor of conference). They hope that support of these movements can create difficulties for the North Atlantic states, for example, for the UK or Spain and force the “opponents of Russia” to concentrate on their domestic problems. They want also to legitimate DPR and LPR placing them to political forces.

The declaration-petition to the United Nations should become result of conference. Well, the countries whose citizens will take part in this separative meeting, must expect unpleasant surprises in the nearest future. Putin has obvious decided to play with the civilized world using the method of “Velvet Revolutions” financing extremism and separatism around the world.

One day Robert Louis Stevenson told “The people who live in the glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”. Russia managing the separative Sabbath might be caught in paradoxical situation. The separative movements in Russia pose a serious threat: from the beginning of 90th there was “the freedom parade”, two bloody Chechen wars, problem treaty with Tatarstan, an attempt of declaration of the Ural Republic.

Playing a separatism card Russia can face itself deplorable consequences. As they say “he who mischief hatches mischief catches”.
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Old 09-18-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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I don't share your anti russian stance, however I'm against separatists in general, particularly the Catalans who are overtly racists against Spanish speakers (a bit like the Ukrainians against Russian speakers) and egotists who as the wealthiest region of Spain don't want to share their prosperity with the rest of the Spaniards (but of course as PoliticalCorrectness wants it, have their mouth full of big words like -tongue-in-cheek-"solidarity ", 'let's help the third world", etc) . Let them go to hell. Extreme nationalists and hypocrites. And so selfloving it's disgusting.
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Old 09-18-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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It is ironic that Russia helping the Catalans to separate is a crime, but the America's endless effort to help Tibet break away from China is a considered noble.

What a hypocritical world we live in.
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Old 09-18-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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Default true enough but....

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It is ironic that Russia helping the Catalans to separate is a crime, but the America's endless effort to help Tibet break away from China is a considered noble.

What a hypocritical world we live in.
Even so, they shouldn't do it. Big powers generally meddle too much in affairs which are not of their resort in the first place.
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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One day Robert Louis Stevenson told “The people who live in the glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”. Russia managing the separative Sabbath might be caught in paradoxical situation. The separative movements in Russia pose a serious threat: from the beginning of 90th there was “the freedom parade”, two bloody Chechen wars, problem treaty with Tatarstan, an attempt of declaration of the Ural Republic.

Playing a separatism card Russia can face itself deplorable consequences. As they say “he who mischief hatches mischief catches”.
Two thoughts.
1. Russian know how to negotiate. They learned that during the 1,000 years of its history.
2. Russian does not support separatism. They support forces that are proper (in their opinion). Separatism is irrelevant. A sense of justice is very much in Russian. But this feeling can be manipulated, unfortunately.
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:10 PM
 
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It is ironic that Russia helping the Catalans to separate is a crime.
??? How Russia is helping the Catalans?
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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This does not compute. The Russ gov't is very anti-separatism, always has been. When it concerns their own territory. It quashed strong separatist tendencies in Yakutia, and do they think the world has already forgotten about Chechnya? Seriously, who do they think they're kidding?

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Old 09-22-2015, 05:43 AM
 
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Chechnya ? who are you kidding? did you know that islamist militants slaughtered/ethnically purified 300 000 non moslems in that republic in 1994 ? if President Putin hadn't intervened, Chechnya and the neighbouring mostly Moslem Russian Caucasus regions would be an ISIS califate now!
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