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View Poll Results: Russia and Sweden: which is more European
Russia 12 13.64%
Sweden 76 86.36%
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:18 PM
 
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That all depends on what your definition of "Europeanness" is.
So how come no one is giving the definition so far, what "Europeannes" is?
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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As for Putin, i am not good at identifying Mongoloid traits in Putin's face. Looks like a north-Slavic face to me.
Some people around here have wild imagination I'd say...


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Yes, and there is an issue as well- that is liberalism, or to be more precise - the consequences of (overdose of) it. Sweden is a liberal country, Russia is a conservative country. I am not any racist at all but i tend to think "europeanness" is better kept in Kostroma than in Malmö for instance.
That's... an interesting take on things)))
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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I looked into the Russian definition of "Uralic race" ( and "racial classifications" in general while I was at that,) - they listed 15 different versions in Wiki, and none of these theories makes much sense to me quiet honestly. It looks like people who create these theories seem to base them on a thought that this "unified look" ( in this case of "Uralic race") is a "basic look across the line" of some "race."
But when I look at the picture of the (supposedly representative) of the "Uralic race," and see other pictures representative of this race, I see nothing in common between them. From the word "nothing."
Overall, the variety of types in certain groups, (particularly when both "Oriental" and "European" looks included in the same group,) makes me think that such group ( or "race") came as the result of mixture of the *original tribes* with the newcomers.
Central Asia is particularly indicative of it for example, with its variety of types, which are well-explained after the look into the history of this region. I'm sure all these different "races" and "subraces" from different theories came as the result of something similar. That is not to say that there is no such thing as "race" to begin with, but its definition is probably much more restrictive than what all these theories imply.
Another thing I wanted to mention is that there is no such thing as "white Russian" ( vs what? "Black Russian?" as mentioned in the picture you've posted. In Russia, this definition is reserved exclusively for Belorussians - that's all to it.
The rest are foreign inventions, because Russians have their own unspoken rules whom to consider "Russian" and whom not to.
You know , the funny thing is that I just found out now , that Kovalev actually is from Ural area .
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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Some people around here have wild imagination I'd say...




https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...part-Mongoloid)

Most people on the apricity , which specializes in those things agree with me . Check it out .

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Old 11-15-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Both countries are obviously European. Russia may mostly lie in Asia, but its center of power is in Europe. Europe is just a continent at the end of the day, not some sentient entity therefore it is defined purely by geography, a concept anathema to politics. The EU on the other hand is a different entity as it's a political organization.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...part-Mongoloid)

I would say most people on the apricity , which specializes in those things .

Oh, bunch of *specialists* I see... The whole consortium)))

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Who are you people???
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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You know , the funny thing is that I just found out now , that Kovalev actually is from Ural area .
.... and Lebedev is from Belgorod, which is even funnier)))
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:52 PM
 
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Both countries are obviously European. Russia may mostly lie in Asia, but its center of power is in Europe. Europe is just a continent at the end of the day, not some sentient entity therefore it is defined purely by geography, a concept anathema to politics. The EU on the other hand is a different entity as it's a political organization.
I am still waiting for someone to come up with a definition of "Europeannes."
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:52 PM
 
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Oh, bunch of *specialists* I see... The whole consortium)))

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Who are you people???
I do not write on that forum but well , that is a forum about phenotypes , whats wrong with those subjects ? Anyway the fact that Putin has mongoloid influence in him is obvious to those people who are keen on this subject . lets be real . But lets finish this topic , because at the end of the day , it is really not worth arguing . There are better topics to discuss like russian women (not their phenotypes ) for example . Enough with russian men .
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Old 11-15-2017, 07:03 PM
 
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I am still waiting for someone to come up with a definition of "Europeannes."
Being from the European continent is the only one I can think of. The modern definition of Western is derived from societies that arose following the fall of the Western Roman Empire as opposed to Eastern culture that embraced Orthodox Christianity as practiced by the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine) following the schism in Christianity. Despite their differences and oppositions throughout history, they are all European at the end of the day.
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