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Old 06-15-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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Do you think Merkel will win a re-election? If she does not win, do you think her replacement will follow the example of other nations and begin expelling the “refugees” Merkel welcomed?
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Old 06-15-2018, 07:57 AM
 
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Do you think Merkel will win a re-election? If she does not win, do you think her replacement will follow the example of other nations and begin expelling the “refugees” Merkel welcomed?
What a mess that would be!

Where would they expel them to? What country has agreed to take Germany's hundreds of thousands of refugees?

BTW, Germany would never do that. Think about it. When was the last time Germany targeted an ethnicity to be rounded up and shipped out? How did that work out?
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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Just because you crossed a border doesn't mean you can't be expelled from a nation. That's literally the concept of tourism, visas, border controls, and nations. These people are not citizens, and most of them aren't legitimate refugees. There is no comparison with WWII.

They can go back to the continent from which they came. Illegally smuggling yourself into Europe does not give you the right to Europe.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Merkel is an old communist who hates Germans and Germany, just like the old communists did. Her position is an affront to politics in general, as she works against and not for the German people's general interest. Her legacy will leave the system in chaos, via the distrust she has fomented. The world has been watching this process unfold for years now. The communists old us that they would make he Western system "stink" with corruption and failure in order o effect a de facto takeover, and that is exactly Merkel's role.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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I don't know anything about public opinion in Germany these days, so I can't venture a guess. I wouldn't want her at the helm in my country.

Germany can't spend the rest of its existence walking on eggshells because of what the Nazis did. Different time, different people, different circumstances. Germany has as much right as anybody else to protect its borders, people, economy, culture, etc.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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Merkel is an old communist who hates Germans and Germany, just like the old communists did. Her position is an affront to politics in general, as she works against and not for the German people's general interest. Her legacy will leave the system in chaos, via the distrust she has fomented. The world has been watching this process unfold for years now. The communists old us that they would make he Western system "stink" with corruption and failure in order o effect a de facto takeover, and that is exactly Merkel's role.
So, anything that isn't right wing it's automatically comunist. Cool logic. And all that rethoric of the "german people" "the volk" looks reminiscent in a scary way, you know. Germany is in its best economic and international moment since WWII
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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So, anything that isn't right wing it's automatically comunist. Cool logic. And all that rethoric of the "german people" "the volk" looks reminiscent in a scary way, you know. Germany is in its best economic and international moment since WWII
She was literally a communist. She recently hired a notorious ex STASI member to patrol speech on social media. /discussion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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I think that, instead of bashing Merkel and indulging fantasies about expelling hundreds of thousands of people, leaders in Europe need to figure out a strategy for dealing with the next wage of refugees. Because there will be one. As desertification increases in Western Asia, more terrain will become uninhabitable, let alone whatever political crises may be happening at any given time. People will head toward more livable regions. The livable regions will have to figure out how to deal with it.
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Old 06-17-2018, 03:25 AM
 
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Do you think Merkel will win a re-election? If she does not win, do you think her replacement will follow the example of other nations and begin expelling the “refugees” Merkel welcomed?

No, I am not sure if Merkel will stay cancelor at all until the next elections, her party will hardly support her in a future election, her time is over, it is not her personal decision to compete.

I also don't think that the migrants that came since 2015 will be deported, neither in Germany nor elsewhere, however I think that Europe will guard its boarders better in the future, if not the EU will not outlast. A considerable number of migrants might leave if their social benefits are canceled, some countries want to do that afaik.


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I think that, instead of bashing Merkel and indulging fantasies about expelling hundreds of thousands of people, leaders in Europe need to figure out a strategy for dealing with the next wage of refugees. Because there will be one. As desertification increases in Western Asia, more terrain will become uninhabitable, let alone whatever political crises may be happening at any given time. People will head toward more livable regions. The livable regions will have to figure out how to deal with it.
If further millions of people move to Germany it will turn into a concrete desert and stop being a livable region either. At some point it well end in a slaugther, so better stopping it now altogether.
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Old 06-17-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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What a mess that would be!

Where would they expel them to? What country has agreed to take Germany's hundreds of thousands of refugees?

BTW, Germany would never do that. Think about it. When was the last time Germany targeted an ethnicity to be rounded up and shipped out? How did that work out?
History repeats itself
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