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No he's not. He's comparing a region, I'm looking at the city. Moreover, France is dominated by immigrants from its former colonies, Britain/US/Australia/Canada attract far more from the Phillipines, S Korea, India, China etc. that have the largest emigrant populations. Paris is a historic global city, not a future one.
You do realize that the figure you quoted for London is for Greater London, right? That goes all the way from Uxbridge to Hornchurch... you want to compare the percentage of foreign-born people in that region with the percentage of foreigners in the much smaller area of Inner Paris?? Why bring up data at all if you’re going to be so far out to lunch trying to interpret it?
Minato ku’s point and my point is not that Paris has more foreign-born people than London, it is that the data you posted for Paris is incorrect. But yeah, keep moving the goalposts.
You do realize that the figure you quoted for London is for Greater London, right?
Which is what's defined as London, not the square mile that makes up the City of London.
If you want to split hairs because you're upset about London being far more important than Paris, and how foolish insistence on speaking French has hurt both Paris and Montreal, then you need to get help.
Which is what's defined as London, not the square mile that makes up the City of London.
If you want to split hairs because you're upset about London being far more important than Paris, and how foolish insistence on speaking French has hurt both Paris and Montreal, then you need to get help.
It is more likely that Frankfurt will be financial hub of EU as per German influence and ECB is located there. One of the things that is being discussed is where the EU institutions will move from UK and two main cities are Paris and Frankfurt.
One thing to consider also is the fact that there is no trade agreement yet between EU and UK and moving companies is very expensive. They will all probably wait out until the agreement is reached and they know all the rules.
I have no idea how this will play out, both EU and UK are claiming that they have upper hand. It also needs to be considered that every EU member has to ratify any trade agreement and some nations like Belgium have to ask their provinces if they are willing to sign agreement.
Pretty straight forward, with Brexit do you think Paris will overtakes London and claim the top spot in Europe for finance, tourism, culture, influence.
Finance - no
Tourism - Paris already the leader
culture - No, both are cities of great culture
Influence - London might have less influence but I still think more than Paris
Finance - no
Tourism - Paris already the leader
culture - No, both are cities of great culture
Influence - London might have less influence but I still think more than Paris
Not sure why you think Paris is the leader in terms of tourism and visitors, as London already has around 20 million a year and more than Paris.
In terms of London, it will do better than other parts of the UK in relation to a no-deal scenario, as it is very international and global,indeed it's currently building a third Asian financial district, and Canary Wharf and the City of London are expandng rapidly.
Most financial services are international, whilst London is a major plater in terms of tech, science and other technology.
The UK remans the EU's biggest customer, and in a no-deal situation there is even talk of some German companies relocating some operations to the UK, and already around 2,000 EU Financial companies have applies to open offices in London.
The UK will increase trade with other countries after leaving the EU, however the EU's £100 Billion surplus is worth more than ten times as much as any scraps they might pick up in relation to finance, and in a no-deal sitiuation Britain will also withold payment of a further £39 Billion that was part of the initial agreement.
The main money being pumped in to London and the UK is increasingly from Asia/China, the Middle East, USA and beyond, and not the EU, and London is a global city with global markets.
In the end the UK will either negotiate a light framework or Canada Plus deal or leave and trade with the EU as Australia does, which is on WTO rules, and the US also doesn't have a trade agreement with the EU.
As far as I am concerned, whilst a deal would be preferable, the UK can live with Australian type trade with the EU, although the opening of UK markets to more competition from other countries wjo negotiate trade deals may see the vasr EU trade surplus with the UK dramatically fall in the future.
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It wouldn't matter if it were not in the EU since London has that reputation abroad.
Plus, London has that "world city" vibe whereas Paris feels very "French", unless you're in the outskirts where the population is dominated by foreign born residents.
In terms of London, it will do better than other parts of the UK in relation to a no-deal scenario, as it is very international and global,indeed it's currently building a third Asian financial district, and Canary Wharf and the City of London are expandng rapidly.
Most financial services are international, whilst London is a major plater in terms of tech, science and other technology.
The UK remans the EU's biggest customer, and in a no-deal situation there is even talk of some German companies relocating some operations to the UK, and already around 2,000 EU Financial companies have applies to open offices in London.
The UK will increase trade with other countries after leaving the EU, however the EU's £100 Billion surplus is worth more than ten times as much as any scraps they might pick up in relation to finance, and in a no-deal sitiuation Britain will also withold payment of a further £39 Billion that was part of the initial agreement.
The main money being pumped in to London and the UK is increasingly from Asia/China, the Middle East, USA and beyond, and not the EU, and London is a global city with global markets.
In the end the UK will either negotiate a light framework or Canada Plus deal or leave and trade with the EU as Australia does, which is on WTO rules, and the US also doesn't have a trade agreement with the EU.
As far as I am concerned, whilst a deal would be preferable, the UK can live with Australian type trade with the EU, although the opening of UK markets to more competition from other countries wjo negotiate trade deals may see the vasr EU trade surplus with the UK dramatically fall in the future.
The number of international visitors means very little, for example, countries like USA and China can have far more tourists internally than any of the international visitors of the nations listed....certainly tiny countries surrounded by other tiny countries versus large countries surrounded by other large countries nullifies that international travel stat.
I've spent a great deal of time in London and like it quite a lot and haven't yet been to Paris but I would like to go. The fact that some many people around the world speak English gives London a huge advantage over Paris in some areas.
Very few cities are in the top tier of financial centers. I can't imagine any continental European city quickly or easily attaining this rarified status.
So, London may be a "Singapore" despite being outside of the EU. Actually, that may enhance this "Singapore" status (which, btw, hints that the UK is reinventing itself). In relation to Brexit, people have commented that continental Europe is over regulated and sclerotic.
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