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Old 07-19-2021, 05:45 AM
 
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I was watching a video about the France attacks and thinking about the recent wave of Islamic extremism that was present in the last decade from 2015. France had Charlie Hebdo, then the Bataclan, then Nice the year after. Even though London had many of those knife attacks in 2017, they were quickly put to a stop. There seems to be way more attacks in France, Belgium, Germany than in the UK.

I've read the reason for this is that it's difficult for terrorists to smuggle weapons to Britian than it is to any country on the continent. Schengen means that there are little to no border checks so someone can drive with firearms from Turkey to France and not be stopped whereas if they wanted to cross over with those firearms into the UK, then they'd need to board a ferry which always does customs checks. Must explain why there has never been a terrorist attack involving guns in the UK.

Either that or MI5/MI6 are way more competent than most European intelligence agencies.
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Old 07-19-2021, 05:52 AM
 
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I was watching a video about the France attacks and thinking about the recent wave of Islamic extremism that was present in the last decade from 2015. France had Charlie Hebdo, then the Bataclan, then Nice the year after. Even though London had many of those knife attacks in 2017, they were quickly put to a stop. There seems to be way more attacks in France, Belgium, Germany than in the UK.

I've read the reason for this is that it's difficult for terrorists to smuggle weapons to Britian than it is to any country on the continent. Schengen means that there are little to no border checks so someone can drive with firearms from Turkey to France and not be stopped whereas if they wanted to cross over with those firearms into the UK, then they'd need to board a ferry which always does customs checks. Must explain why there has never been a terrorist attack involving guns in the UK.

Either that or MI5/MI6 are way more competent than most European intelligence agencies.
The UK works closely with other European and Western countries, in order to identify any attacks, and NATO is also increasingly becoming involved in Cyber Warfare and Counter Terrorism.

It's not really a question of who is best, it's a question of working together.

I think most people in Europe are sickened by any terrorist attack wherever it happens.

A new London-based Counter Terrorism Operations Centre is currently being constructed, although it's location remains a secret. It will be responsible for bringing agencies together in a new state of the art facility.

A National Cyber Security Centre has also been set up in the UK, and there will be new National Cyber Force with facilities at a location somewhere in North West England, as part of a new 'cyber corridor'.

The main Counter Terrorism units, are the UK police regional counter terrorism units coupled with Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command, the Security Service (MI5), the Secret Service (MI6), the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), Defence Intelligence and the Joint Terrorism Intelligence Analysis Centre (JTAC).

There are also close links with Western and European Intelligence Agencies, through Five Eyes, NATO and other agreements.

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Old 07-20-2021, 03:58 AM
 
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^^

MI6 is the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) rather than just Secret Service.

Sorry my mistake in leaving the word Intelligence out.
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Old 07-20-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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Muslim countries speak French or English and IRA - English. You can't seriously expect someone to say on a walkie-talkie "Ahmed,wir miussen die juden zu tioten" or "Bonsair, Paris!" or something it will be more like "Let's bomb the lads, free Ireland!". A Russian muslim will speak English to someone from Hamas.
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Old 07-20-2021, 09:27 AM
 
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^ My point is: The UK agencies have it easier with the language advantage.
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Old 07-20-2021, 04:13 PM
 
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Let me remember, London Westminster 2017, Manchester Arena 2017, London Bridge 2017, London Parsons Green train bombing.
The last one failed to kill because of defective device, not because of counter-terrorism.
2017 was a little more than knife attacks in UK.

It's often more a factor of luck or who is seen as the enemy.

Since the mid 2010s, France are actively more fighting against extremism islamist and this is a bigger target for terrorist groups than UK.
Thanks to the large French speaking population in Northern African and even in Middle East, ISIS oriented it's propaganda toward the French speaking Muslims. Its explain why Belgium was also affected. It's an unfortunate collatoral damage. It's explain also why "many" French and Belgian Muslims went to Syria in comparison with other western countries.

UK was a bigger target during the second Iraq war, explaining the 2005 bombing of London underground.
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Old 07-22-2021, 02:15 AM
 
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Isn't the UK part of "Five Eyes"?

Also, Britain does not believe in personal privacy like Europe does.


So I would say "yes". But it is not an expert opinion.
Britain has much of the same privacy laws as Europe, in relation to Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights and has implemented the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), although it may diverge from some aspects of the GDPR as part of future plans to replace certain EU regulations.
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