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kung fu is worthless in a real fight..............cage or street
any martial art that lacks sparing and top level competitions has been proven to be not effective in real combat. this is why a world champion in competition karate, sambo, judo, jujutsu kick boxing, ect would absolutely murder the worlds most elite kung fu practitioners.
I don't have training in martial arts or boxing, but in a street brawl wouldn't the weight of your opponent matter much more than technique? I'm around 140 and i can't imagine trying to parry or fend off blows from a guy who outweighs me by 100 pounds.
Smaller guys are usually faster.
I used to spar with a friend who I outweighed by 80 lbs and I also had a 7 inch height advantage.
Unless two people decide to "step outside" and fight for nothing more important than ego, many street fights involve one person attacking another before they are "ready." Real street combat also includes the possibility (probability these days) of another attacker stepping out of the crowd - as well as the potential for weapons. If the attacker is aggressive and nasty, the "fight" may be over before the second person has the opportunity to know what happened and mount their response. Given that reality, I would prefer to have strong awareness and cunning, the punch of a boxer and the feet of track star.
FYI- This months national geographic focused on Buddhist monks and REAL kung fu. It was an excellent article and a good reminder that there is a BIG difference between pure kung fu and the offshoots of kung fu that look better in TV and movie-land.
Whatever your opinions on the matter it is an excellent article.
Unless two people decide to "step outside" and fight for nothing more important than ego, many street fights involve one person attacking another before they are "ready." Real street combat also includes the possibility (probability these days) of another attacker stepping out of the crowd - as well as the potential for weapons. If the attacker is aggressive and nasty, the "fight" may be over before the second person has the opportunity to know what happened and mount their response. Given that reality, I would prefer to have strong awareness and cunning, the punch of a boxer and the feet of track star.
i think the understanding for a discussion of this nature has to be if you take guy A and guy B and they have no weapons and no rules, what would be the best fighting style for them to walk away victorious. how else would you have this conversation? in reality, not only would i want to make sure i have my gun handy if i got into a fight, i would also like to have the opportunity to punch the other person without them expecting it. im not interested in giving someone an chance to hit me. but thats not for this conversation.
FYI- This months national geographic focused on Buddhist monks and REAL kung fu. It was an excellent article and a good reminder that there is a BIG difference between pure kung fu and the offshoots of kung fu that look better in TV and movie-land.
Whatever your opinions on the matter it is an excellent article.
I'll have to look that up.
Another thing people should know (especially those those who mistakenly think kung fu is useless), is that there is a HUGE difference between Kung Fu/Chuan Fa and Wu Shu. The beer drinking, skull cap and Affliction T-shirt wearing idiots who think MMA is the be-all/end-all need to educate themselves on this.
Another thing people should know (especially those those who mistakenly think kung fu is useless), is that there is a HUGE difference between Kung Fu/Chuan Fa and Wu Shu. The beer drinking, skull cap and Affliction T-shirt wearing idiots who think MMA is the be-all/end-all need to educate themselves on this.
It's the issue with the head shot of a fox dominating the cover.
who think MMA is the be-all/end-all need to educate themselves on this.
you realize mma isnt a style by itself right? its a compilation of different styles that put together create a more well rounded fighter. for competitors, that means they can have any combination of different skillsets and different striking styles. i just havent seen any of them include kung fu. for striking they are usually boxing, kick boxing, muy thai, maybe something im missing. now, if you suggest kung fu isnt included because it doesnt fit in with the rules of competitive fighting that might be a legitimate issue. i believe krav maga is highly regarded striking style but wouldnt fit in with the rules. however, id think that mma fighters that dont train for competition may be including it.
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