[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by kokonutty

Who told you this? Hannity? Would you care to provide some support for such nonsense?

Watch CNN or listen to Democrats who are trying to allow people to vote without having to provide any ID, using tax payer money to pay for legal fees on behalf of illegals, fighting to give illegals us driver licenses, instate tuition, access to public schools etc.

[kokonutty]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

Watch CNN or listen to Democrats who are trying to allow people to vote without having to provide any ID, using tax payer money to pay for legal fees on behalf of illegals, fighting to give illegals us driver licenses, instate tuition, access to public schools etc.

You made a claim; it should be simple to support it. No one asked about a movement to suddenly require identification to vote. Using taxpayer funds to pay for legal fees, like public defenders has been going on for over a hundred years and was memorialized in Miranda. Driver's licenses are for drivers regardless of immigration status, always have been. Schooling is schooling, it has nothing to do with voting.

Once again, support your claim that anyone or any one party has been "scrambling to allow illegals to vote ."
Try to stay on topic and not divert with a handful of other topics you heard some nitwit on BS Stream media ranting about.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

Watch CNN or listen to Democrats who are trying to allow people to vote without having to provide any ID, using tax payer money to pay for legal fees on behalf of illegals, fighting to give illegals us driver licenses, instate tuition, access to public schools etc.

Sounds about as fake as trump claiming he would have won the pop vote if it wasn't for illegals lol

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

Watch CNN or listen to Democrats who are trying to allow people to vote without having to provide any ID, using tax payer money to pay for legal fees on behalf of illegals, fighting to give illegals us driver licenses, instate tuition, access to public schools etc.

No, that doesn't answer your claim which was:

Originally Posted by bmw335xi View Post
We will see soon enough, Democrats are scrambling to allow illegals to vote because it's the only way they can win.

And by the way, every state in the Country gives non citizen children access to public schools because it is settled law, if they denied them entry to public schools they would be in deep doo doo. Don't believe me, look up Plyler v. Doe 1982.

But back to your claim, how exactly are democrats "scrambling to allow illegals to vote"

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

how exactly are democrats "scrambling to allow illegals to vote"

They aren't. He's just parroting what he hears from Trump and various right-wing outlets.

Trump was completely shutdown on his illegal voting comment btw, no proof could be found to back up what he said, and certainly Trump offered nothing himself (no different than the Obama birther controversy). Trump eventually had to disband the voter fraud commission as well. Bigly embarrassing

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...oter-id-324015

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/u...ommission.html

[dfwuno]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

They aren't. He's just parroting what he hears from Trump and various right-wing outlets.

Trump was completely shutdown on his illegal voting comment btw, no proof could be found to back up what he said, and certainly Trump offered nothing himself (no different than the Obama birther controversy). Trump eventually had to disband the voter fraud commission as well. Bigly embarrassing

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...oter-id-324015

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/u...ommission.html

Isn't it funny how when pressed for facts or proof those that spout these things clam up. How about dead people voting......haven't heard that one lately.

[Qazulight]

Originally Posted by BeachBum87

Since there is an 2nd amendment, you need more than a clean majority to pass any ban on semi automatic weapons. Try a super majority - 2/3rds - basically you need to pass another amendment.

Any legislative ban at the federal level of semi automatic weapons will be struck down by the USSC.

I looked into that idea. It does not work. If the second amendment allows the government to ban fully automatic weapons, then the government can ban all weapons right down to a box cutter and butter knife.

For all practical purposes, the second amendment was abridged in 1984. The only reason guns are not banned nationwide is Congress and the President do not want them banned. It matters not if you think this is a good thing or bad thing, that is the way it is.

Cheers
Qazulight

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Qazulight

I looked into that idea. It does not work. If the second amendment allows the government to ban fully automatic weapons, then the government can ban all weapons right down to a box cutter and butter knife.

False. Boxcutters =/= guns

Btw, full auto weapons are banned for all intents and purposes but you can still buy semi auto rifles or boxcutters, obviously

[Jimbo302]

Originally Posted by Mark59

My kids schools all have metal detectors and multiple armed security.

No one goes into the school without being checked at the metal detector and all entries are locked forcing everyone to go through the check.

This kid would have never made it into the school had these been at this school.

Why did this school not have this in place?

My kids are in Florida schools and we see multiple sheriffs running around on golf carts which should be at every school in the nation.

Yes I am for arming teachers as well but not all teachers. Those who have already experience in the military, reserves, security etc surely would be a help.

It is sad that this level of security is now deemed necessary, but honestly, security is the best way to protect anything.

I read a few comments from Parkland parent's that I thought were beyond reasonable.

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.c...-not-gun%3famp

Gun control is a big issue. No one in America is going to come together on gun control," Andrew Pollack said on "Fox News Sunday."

"Today is not about guns. It's about the safety in our schools," he added.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...1b6_story.html

The father of a girl who was shot to death at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14 urged people not to allow the contentious gun debate to stall other efforts.


“Let’s not get mired down in that debate,” said Ryan Petty, father of Alaina Petty. “There will be time for that. Right now, we secure our schools. Next, we figure out what went wrong.”

[BucFan]

noticed lately that all the big cable news networks have pretty much moved on and the shooting is no longer a story - the cycle continues