[hiknapster]

Originally Posted by jbravo

No, not really.
But, if someone works in a service job (Walmart / Publix) and wishes to buy a house then I beleive that the problem is their sense of entitlement that seems to pervade around us.
Tallrick spent 3 years building his house, SKB was saving for 5 years.
Not too long ago the standard was 20% down payment.
You're only a half-back; I know more than one full-back.

What amazes me is people that are immigrants and feel that they are entitled!

If someone works their whole life at Walmart or Publix, coming in every day, and would like a 900 square foot home in a safe area, I don't see a problem.

Someone comes here looking for political asylum and expects that we should speak their language and fly their flag, well, they have another thing coming to them.

[riveree]

Originally Posted by jbravo

But, if someone works in a service job (Walmart / Publix) and wishes to buy a house then I beleive that the problem is their sense of entitlement that seems to pervade around us.

Not pointing at anyone in particular, but I agree with the point about working a service job and what the expectations might be for housing.

A $10/hr job is barely going to pay for a small apartment rental - imagining that you should be able to buy a house on this kind of income is setting yourself up for failure.

If someone really wants a house, it's probably better to reassess, maybe go back to school for a degree, whatever - but it's the $10/hr that's the problem.

Also, this view of Florida as being a state with only service jobs is not accurate. Tourism is a major industry in FL, and there are many service jobs to cater to that industry, but there are many other industries in FL and countless jobs outside of the service realm.

[dreamofmonterey]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to hiknapster again.
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[hiknapster]

You know, Sunny, I spent my entire day researching my great-grandparents. They were German and lived in Prussia. That is to say that it was the Polish-German border for many centuries.

My great-grandmother came to this country with one child and one child in her tummy to Ellis Island. She and her husband had to have a job even to get here. Fortunately, the Polish in her little village took pity and they came.

All my mother remembers of her is the stories she told of the soldiers coming on horseback to terrify the villagers and that she hated war. She sent her sons into World War I, and it just about killed her. She dies before World War II and the family was grateful. Emilia could not have taken anymore.

By the way, the Nazi's put the German Lutherans (my ancestors) the Jews and the Poles in Auschwitz.

When the Germans lost the war they gave the area to the Poles. The Polish did "ethnic cleansing" of the remaining Germans.

I will try, but I doubt I will find anyone over there.

So when immigrants get snarky to me, I take offense. You have no idea where we all come from.

I know today that she came to America in 1885. She and her husband were millworkers. They worked hard all their life.

Oh, and by the way, they bought their own home.

My grandmother was taught to never speak German. They never spoke about their homeland. It took 150 years for me to discover that they are from what is now considered Posen, Poland.

A great gift to my mother.

Maybe some of these immigrants need to think about how OUR ancestors got here.

My family was grateful to be on American soil. It meant everything to them. They flew the American flag proudly and never wanted to discuss where they came from. And you wonder why we all take offense at your antics?

Today, I know where I came from, but I also know that my great-grandparents wanted more than anything to be American citizens.

[daniellefort]

It all comes down to each individuals education and how they manage money. If you don't get some kind of education, your going to struggle out there. It may not be easy to do for some but believe me, it's possible and i did it under very tough circumstances. It just seems that everybody always has an excuse why they can't get a decent paying job. Tell me, how many people do you hear say when i graduate high school, i want to work at Walmart or be a cashier when i grow up. these jobs are out there for those who don't qualify for better paying jobs and no, don't expect to live on the high life working them either. There's a reason why it's called Mimimum wage jobs because if the companies could, they would pay you even less.

[hiknapster]

Point one: There are people in other parts of the country that make $10 an hour and can buy a house. Granted, two people in that household have to work, but it can be done. Not everywhere is ridiculously overpriced.

Point two: Most of the people that are having a tough time making ends meet, and can't afford Florida's housing bubble make much more than minimum wage or even $10 an hour.

[mystree]

But, if someone works in a service job (Walmart / Publix) and wishes to buy a house then I beleive that the problem is their sense of entitlement that seems to pervade around us.

As long as you are a hardworking american,you are entitled.As far as service jobs,americans depend on these people to be there for them but don't think they are deserving of owning a home?? That's pure rubbish and you should be thankful these people are working for you.

[dreamofmonterey]

Originally Posted by mystree66

As long as you are a hardworking american,you are entitled.As far as service jobs,americans depend on these people to be there for them but don't think they are deserving of owning a home?? That's pure rubbish and you should be thankful these people are working for you.

mystre66-EXACTLY. That was my point then jbravo chimed in with his entitlement diatribe---

There are alot of service jobs in Florida. If people are supporting their family with these type jobs, and have a house, they are struggling.

[mystree]

Without good service people,these people sitting back in their high faluting offices would not be making the incomes they do.A successful business is only successful with teamwork and like it or not that is from the ground on up.The problem is these businesses not wanting to pay a living wage so all can have a piece of the pie.A sliver of pie is better than just the crumbs.So I don't feel it's unreasonable for working americans to feel that they too can be a homeowner,even like someone else said,it's 900 square feet.

[riveree]

Originally Posted by sunnyhelena

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to hiknapster again.
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Sunny,

Was this intended for me? I'm somewhat new to forums, what does "spread some Reputation around" mean ?

Other than my post and Hiknapster's being simultaneously posted (1:23 & 1:23), I don't see the connection?

Riveree