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Old 07-19-2015, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Originally Posted by Gerania View Post
"Leaving its juices in." I didn't know what you meant either.
I think that just means the produce is dry. One thing I notice is the description of a soft cabbage. Well, growers go with varieties that are shipping hardy. Varieties that will travel miles and miles by freight and stand up to that and still be "fresh" on shelves. When producers go with something that allows a product to ship well, and be resilient, usually flavor is lost. So, that's the difference probably.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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I went to a farmers market in Nashville, TN this past weekend - none of the fruits or vegetables were "acting like cardboard." There were even quite a few heirloom varieties available. They were all fresh, ripe, colorful, and fragrant.

The only thing I saw "acting like cardboard" were the boxes containing the produce.
My fruit and vegetables never perform. Perhaps it's because they know I'm going to eat them. Do they even know? Maybe they think I've adopted them.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I live in Atlanta also--have you been to Your Dekalb Farmer's Market (YDFM) on East Ponce? I've had good luck there.

I don't trust TJ produce.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I'm not having any problem understanding what the OP is trying to say. If you have ever bought produce in France you would immediately know what he is saying. Maybe his choice of words was awkward, but it's not hard to figure out what he means.

Sacramento has a large Ukranian and Russian population and I have found the produce in their ethnic grocery stores to be quite good. Another source for decent produce here are Mexican Grocery Stores.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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I don't trust TJ produce.
TJ produce?
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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TJ produce?

Trader Joes. It's always bagged. It's not usually local.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I'm not having any problem understanding what the OP is trying to say. If you have ever bought produce in France you would immediately know what he is saying. Maybe his choice of words was awkward, but it's not hard to figure out what he means.

Sacramento has a large Ukranian and Russian population and I have found the produce in their ethnic grocery stores to be quite good. Another source for decent produce here are Mexican Grocery Stores.

You say that because you just said: You've bought produce in France. You have something to relate to in the OP. But I think my interpretation is correct.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:58 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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I just posted this link but it must have been in response to a different but related thread...anyway it directly relates to the OP's issues.

Supermarkets ONLY stock what looks good, ships well and is cheap (for THEM, before their markup!). As for taste, few in the U.S. even remember what real produce tastes like so they don't care. They've been sold on the "health benefits" only so of course if it is healthy no surprise it tastes lousy, right?

Garden Gem tomato: Why Harry Klee’s perfect cultivar isn’t sold in supermarkets.
Wow! Thanks, excellent article. Now I'm going on a quest to find and eat Garden Gems. Thick slices on rye bread with mayo.

EDIT: you can get some seeds from the U of Florida in return for a contribution: http://hos.ufl.edu/kleeweb/newcultivars.html

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Old 07-19-2015, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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I think that just means the produce is dry. One thing I notice is the description of a soft cabbage. Well, growers go with varieties that are shipping hardy. Varieties that will travel miles and miles by freight and stand up to that and still be "fresh" on shelves. When producers go with something that allows a product to ship well, and be resilient, usually flavor is lost. So, that's the difference probably.
I eventually figured that out from the cole slaw description. That's why the farmer's market is usually the best place to buy produce. Everything is locally or regionally grown and doesn't have to be shipped a long distance. Whatever they're selling is in season. I went to a market about a week and a half ago and there was a lot of corn, tomatoes, peppers, melons, berries. There was definitely no spinach or cabbage because it's not in season.
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Old 07-19-2015, 10:19 PM
 
Location: SoFlo
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why all the heat on the OP? i will be the first person to tout the benefits of being an american (there probably three countries, with the US being one, that i would want to be a businesswoman in), however THE PRODUCE HERE SUCKS. there is no other way to say it. and i live in florida and shop farmers markets and all that nonsense. i have noticed for years the steep decline in texture and flavor of fruits and vegetables, particularly tomatoes with their now weird texture and bland taste. no wonder americans have turned to junk food in droves. i thought my intense dislike for fruits and vegetables might coming from a diet backlash to try to eat more. i then read the book "tomatoland" and realized nope, factory farming has removed all taste from our food and yes it really does taste like crap. oh yeah, and then i went to france and realized what real produce should taste like. just a little salt and pepper with some olive oil either sauteed or grilled and voila AMAZING food. no mystery as to why the french arent fat, natural healthy food that actually tastes good so you dont have to turn to the junk food.

the OP wasnt dissing america or americans - just our crappy food, which is ACTUALLY CRAPPY. cant fault the OP for stating a simple truth and asking for some help.
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