News, Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls off the line. (AWD, buy, sell)
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As mentioned before, the police seem to prefer the Crown Vic. Regarding police activities and duties, the Crown Vic is not "dated" at all.
Most Police haven't even tried the Caprice, so if they disregard it, they have no idea what they're talking about.
And compared to a well specced Caprice, the Crown Vic most certainly is, especially when it comes to the safety and well being of the the LEO's who use it.
Most Police haven't even tried the Caprice, so if they disregard it, they have no idea what they're talking about.
How do you know that? Have you contacted numerous police departments?
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And compared to a well specced Caprice, the Crown Vic most certainly is, especially when it comes to the safety and well being of the the LEO's who use it.
You wouldn't really know that unless you either driven both or read thorough road tests of both.
And safety? The Crown Vic, along with the Lincoln Town Car, is one of the safest cars available.
How do you know that? Have you contacted numerous police departments?
You wouldn't really know that unless you either driven both or read thorough road tests of both.
And safety? The Crown Vic, along with the Lincoln Town Car, is one of the safest cars available.
I'm baying my first statement off the fact that LAPD recently got the caprice for testing, as the first in the country, according to the story, other precincts are waiting for their report.
A far as safety goes: a) it's an old platform, crash tech had moved light years since then. B) The better specced, if not all, caprice model comes with the computer built in to the savoyard, removing the metal frame holding and the laptop sporting on top of it. This was one of the major players when it comes to injuries to LEOs in other police cars, when they crash.
And yes, I have read road tests on both, and seen test videos, the caprice is very clearly the better vehicle.
Why are you so wealthy at keeping police officers in old cars that can't keep up with the times?
I'm baying my first statement off the fact that LAPD recently got the caprice for testing, as the first in the country, according to the story, other precincts are waiting for their report.
A far as safety goes: a) it's an old platform, crash tech had moved light years since then. B) The better specced, if not all, caprice model comes with the computer built in to the savoyard, removing the metal frame holding and the laptop sporting on top of it. This was one of the major players when it comes to injuries to LEOs in other police cars, when they crash.
And yes, I have read road tests on both, and seen test videos, the caprice is very clearly the better vehicle.
Why are you so wealthy at keeping police officers in old cars that can't keep up with the times?
I'm basing my statements on the fact that some police officers prefer the Crown Vic... more comfortable seats and more trunk space. Also, the body-on-frame chassis is more rugged.
The (Lincoln) Town Car has five stars for each safety category... can't improve on that!
I don't know if the Caprice is the "better" vehicle... it depends on what "better" means. I do know that, going by the police officers themselves, the Crown Vic is the preferred vehicle.
I'll agree. In certain crashes the CV is a fine place to be, in others, not so much. In the real world, the CV/GM/TC often fares well because of its weight advantage over most other passenger cars. The laws of physics are difficult to break.
If you do a side by side comparison with the Vic and many other modern cars, the differences are significant. The Vic for a time was a reasonable car, but things have moved on quite a bit.
I've been in plenty of old cars and I don't have nostalgia for cars that took a couple of football fields to stop or didn't have decent safety features such as 3 point seat belts. It's interesting to have some survivors around for historical purposes, but otherwise...
It's like putting up a 48K 1981 Atari 800 to a 2011 Dell laptop with 8 million K of memory. No contest.
it's nothing like that. Computer technology has moved forward at lightning speed, unencumbered by the regulatory wrecking ball that ended the greatest automotive era.
I'm baying my first statement off the fact that LAPD recently got the caprice for testing, as the first in the country, according to the story, other precincts are waiting for their report.
A far as safety goes: a) it's an old platform, crash tech had moved light years since then. B) The better specced, if not all, caprice model comes with the computer built in to the savoyard, removing the metal frame holding and the laptop sporting on top of it. This was one of the major players when it comes to injuries to LEOs in other police cars, when they crash.
And yes, I have read road tests on both, and seen test videos, the caprice is very clearly the better vehicle.
Why are you so wealthy at keeping police officers in old cars that can't keep up with the times?
Keep up with the times?
I hate to be the one to bring the bad news, but these are not good times....in so many ways....not the least of which is the current automotive state of affairs. The automotive good times were 40 - 60 years ago when the dinosaurs roamed our highways and nobody browbeat us into feeling the slightest bit guilty about it.
I'm basing my statements on the fact that some police officers prefer the Crown Vic... more comfortable seats and more trunk space. Also, the body-on-frame chassis is more rugged.
The (Lincoln) Town Car has five stars for each safety category... can't improve on that!
I don't know if the Caprice is the "better" vehicle... it depends on what "better" means. I do know that, going by the police officers themselves, the Crown Vic is the preferred vehicle.
Well for one, you actually can improve in a 5 star safety rating. Euro NCAP (I don't know if the US rating agency has done the same), seriously increased the requirements to gain a 5 star rating in their crash tests, because cars had gotten so safe that most of them passed with a 5 or at least a 4 star rating, so essentially: A car that gets a 5 star rating in Europe today will be significantly better in a crash than one that got a 5 star rating just 5-10 years ago.
So it's absolutely possible to improve on a 5 star rating. If you think crash safety technology peaked with the Lincoln Town Car, then frankly, you're mistaken.
Better means it's better for Police use, it has ergonomically better seats (yes it does have room cut out for the belts, guns holsters etc), it's far safer for the cop in the passenger seat, and safer for both police officers in a crash, due to modern safety equipment, it's faster, more efficient, better and more intuitive gear placement and better wiring for instance, for the tech who have to maintain it.
Again, saying that the Crown Vic is better because "some police officers prefer the Crown Vic" doesn't really say anything about the two cars, especially since you claimed anyone would've had to read thorough tests of both to make a judgment call. Have you actually read or seen tests of both vehicles?
"Some" police officers prefer the Crown Vic because they compare it to the little Impala and/or the old Charger, not based on a comparison with a vehicle that hasn't been made widely available to the officers yet.
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Keep up with the times?
I hate to be the one to bring the bad news, but these are not good times....in so many ways....not the least of which is the current automotive state of affairs. The automotive good times were 40 - 60 years ago when the dinosaurs roamed our highways and nobody browbeat us into feeling the slightest bit guilty about it.
That might very well be your opinion, I prefer the cars of today, which are infinitely safer, faster, more reliable and do all of that using much less fuel.
Oh, and I've never felt guilty for driving anything, if you do, that's something you have to answer for. And if you think the police cars of 60 years ago would do well today, by all means, try and talk a precinct into buying a fleet of them.
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roamed our highways and nobody browbeat us into feeling the slightest bit guilty about it.
