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Old 02-04-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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I think it's fair to say you've done an excellent job of embarrassing yourself in front of hundreds, if not thousands of city-data readers. Out of respect to others on the forum, I have nothing else to add.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I think it's fair to say you've done an excellent job of embarrassing yourself in front of hundreds, if not thousands of city-data readers. Out of respect to others on the forum, I have nothing else to add.
Good assessment.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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I have had 2 M3's, one coupe and one convertible, probably 4 1/2 years of ownership total.

I borrowed a rented 2012 5.0 GT automatic, I was impressed.....even the automatic would lay down stripes!

I have driven a CTS-V and a Shelby GT500 on the track. Both were very fast but got their brakes faded out quickly after a few hot laps. The M3 coupe I had did the same thing at Sebring. None are ideal track cars (plenty fast but too heavy causing brakes to overheat).

I would definitely consider any of the above as a purchase for daily use!
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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The Mustang don't need an IRS. If you have never driven a new one, you really have no idea what Ford has done with a solid axle. Read this

2013 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca Instrumented Test – Review – Car and Driver
All they dos was give it a three link, nothing special.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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Nope, not any of these things you mentioned. I simply provided input on a question where I had first-hand experience. You're the one that pulled me into this back and forth crap. I'm not fixated on anything, cars are just a hobby for me.

Think the best thing is for you to drive one of the cars and form your own opinion instead of bashing the opinions of others. Tell me if you like how the revs go down to barely idling when driving at 35-45mph and how it's nice to have to mash the pedal all the way down to get response from the engine. It really ought to be more linear throttle response. It's just not a fun transmission at all. You're either on or off and I believe that the car was made like that for fuel consumption numbers. Would be great to hear from owners of these cars, but guess none are here.
It's the throttle by wire, people have had similar complaints with the08+ STi's. Thats why O hate tbw. The camaro has the same tech, a lot of cars do. It started with vehicles like busses. One reason I dont wany a new car. They are harder to mod for another reason. The stang and camaro both nees their stock radio to function. I would want to rewire and mod the ecm
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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I was excited to learn about the Mustang finally coming along with the times. They may actually make one that deserves my money.
Lack of a irs does not make them behind times. They are cheap, they are still in use, on a track it makes no.difference accept on a drag strip were only vipers and vettes can do hard launches without fear of grenading the irs. The only real benefit to irs is all these ragety roada across america seem a little less bumpy. I think if you.want a good mustang equivalent with irs, get a mn12 chassis ford(tbird etc), next to the GT they have the best rwd ford irs- them and the dc2 car(lincolm ls).
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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Lack of a irs does not make them behind times. They are cheap, they are still in use, on a track it makes no.difference accept on a drag strip were only vipers and vettes can do hard launches without fear of grenading the irs. The only real benefit to irs is all these ragety roada across america seem a little less bumpy. I think if you.want a good mustang equivalent with irs, get a mn12 chassis ford(tbird etc), next to the GT they have the best rwd ford irs- them and the dc2 car(lincolm ls).
What? English please.
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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What did you not understand?
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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What did you not understand?
If your previous post was of a higher quality consistency such as the post I quoted. I would have understood what you said. Misspells and periods in the wrong places. I didn't even bother to comprehend it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I think it's fair to say you've done an excellent job of embarrassing yourself in front of hundreds, if not thousands of city-data readers. Out of respect to others on the forum, I have nothing else to add.

I have good reason to know better.

However, here is a nice video:

http://www.carthrottle.com/the-most-reckless-and-addictive-bmw-m5-city-hoon-video-ever/
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