Is H-E-B ISD more diverse than the actual Mid-Cities region? (Houston: apartment complexes, homes)

[Redlionjr]

So my job is really considering relocating me to DFW area and I'm willing to accept it if we can find a similar community to where we would prefer to live in the Houston metro area (Unincorporated Richmond/Katy area).

So I was looking at H-E-B ISD and seeing that it's the most diverse school district in the state. Not only that but they have really good schools. So I look at the population of each city that makes up the mid-cities and it looks like the schools impressive diversity doesn't match the cities. We're a Black middle class family and just wondering why isn't there a higher percentage of Black population in these towns similar to the schools?

Do some families live in nearby Arlington or Irving? What gives?

[true_wu]

[quote=Redlionjr;61131298]So my job is really considering relocating me to DFW area and I'm willing to accept it if we can find a similar community to where we would prefer to live in the Houston metro area (Unincorporated Richmond/Katy area).

So I was looking at H-E-B ISD and seeing that it's the most diverse school district in the state. Not only that but they have really good schools. So I look at the population of each city that makes up the mid-cities and it looks like the schools impressive diversity doesn't match the cities. We're a Black middle class family and just wondering why isn't there a higher percentage of Black population in these towns similar to the schools?

The HEB area especially euless and Bedford has a high number of apartments. The population in the apartments are way more diverse than the general single family demographics.

HEB is a very nice area to live and your kids will get a education and a diverse setting. The school demographic is probably more reliable than trying to rather that information from the many apartment complexes.

[Redlionjr]

[quote=true_wu;61131610]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

So my job is really considering relocating me to DFW area and I'm willing to accept it if we can find a similar community to where we would prefer to live in the Houston metro area (Unincorporated Richmond/Katy area).

So I was looking at H-E-B ISD and seeing that it's the most diverse school district in the state. Not only that but they have really good schools. So I look at the population of each city that makes up the mid-cities and it looks like the schools impressive diversity doesn't match the cities. We're a Black middle class family and just wondering why isn't there a higher percentage of Black population in these towns similar to the schools?

The HEB area especially euless and Bedford has a high number of apartments. The population in the apartments are way more diverse than the general single family demographics.

HEB is a very nice area to live and your kids will get a education and a diverse setting. The school demographic is probably more reliable than trying to rather that information from the many apartment complexes.

Ok that makes a lot more sense now.

[Exult.Q36]

There are portions of HEB ISD that serves east Fort Worth & North Arlington both which have large black populations. Also, H-E-B does take so many students in from out of district.

[TDub1986]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

So my job is really considering relocating me to DFW area and I'm willing to accept it if we can find a similar community to where we would prefer to live in the Houston metro area (Unincorporated Richmond/Katy area).

So I was looking at H-E-B ISD and seeing that it's the most diverse school district in the state. Not only that but they have really good schools. So I look at the population of each city that makes up the mid-cities and it looks like the schools impressive diversity doesn't match the cities. We're a Black middle class family and just wondering why isn't there a higher percentage of Black population in these towns similar to the schools?

Do some families live in nearby Arlington or Irving? What gives?

I would say that gap between the ISD and the cities is explained by the fact that we have quite a few white, retired households here. Many of these people moved here back in the 70s and 80s for the schools and now they are all empty-nesters. So you still have a rather large portion of white, retired households in the population but they do not send any kids to the schools.

I don't know anything about the area you're coming from, but I would definitely come up and check out H-E-B. It's really the best bang for the buck as far as value and quality of schools IMO.

[Exult.Q36]

Originally Posted by TDub1986

I would say that gap between the ISD and the cities is explained by the fact that we have quite a few white, retired households here. Many of these people moved here back in the 70s and 80s for the schools and now they are all empty-nesters. So you still have a rather large portion of white, retired households in the population but they do not send any kids to the schools.

I don't know anything about the area you're coming from, but I would definitely come up and check out H-E-B. It's really the best bang for the buck as far as value and quality of schools IMO.

Yep, this is number one reason for the discrepancy and I personally love the H-E-B area. It’s just a great overall place to raise a family regardless of race. The two school districts in Tarrant County I would perfectly be comfortable sending my children to would be H-E-B isd & Mansfield ISD. Both are very competitive ISD’s that get the most out of every child.

[Koshka2]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

So my job is really considering relocating me to DFW area and I'm willing to accept it if we can find a similar community to where we would prefer to live in the Houston metro area (Unincorporated Richmond/Katy area).

Well, I guess it depends on the area you live in. I have lived in that area. One time I was closer to Richmond area - lived in an acreage community near 359. That had a bit more of a rural feel and it was a little bit of a drive to go places. It was nice because we had dogs, but I didn't like it being a bit of a drive to places. Later, we lived in an unincorporated area near Katy Mills mall and that was a great area. There were acreage homes there also and some areas were completely unrestricted with no HOA. At the same there there are some unincorporated areas especially near Katy that the subdivisions were pretty much just like being in a subdivision within city limits. However, you weren't subject to the city ordinances.

Most of Tarrant county near HEB area isn't like that. I don't live there, but am not far away. One of the big differences in Tarrant county especially in the NE part is that almost everywhere is a little city. There is not much that is unincorporated. You will almost always be subject to city ordinances. Also, most of the area has a higher density than in the unincorporated areas around Richmond and Katy. Personally I like being closer to amenities but it is a bit different.

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by Koshka2

Well, I guess it depends on the area you live in. I have lived in that area. One time I was closer to Richmond area - lived in an acreage community near 359. That had a bit more of a rural feel and it was a little bit of a drive to go places. It was nice because we had dogs, but I didn't like it being a bit of a drive to places. Later, we lived in an unincorporated area near Katy Mills mall and that was a great area. There were acreage homes there also and some areas were completely unrestricted with no HOA. At the same there there are some unincorporated areas especially near Katy that the subdivisions were pretty much just like being in a subdivision within city limits. However, you weren't subject to the city ordinances.

Most of Tarrant county near HEB area isn't like that. I don't live there, but am not far away. One of the big differences in Tarrant county especially in the NE part is that almost everywhere is a little city. There is not much that is unincorporated. You will almost always be subject to city ordinances. Also, most of the area has a higher density than in the unincorporated areas around Richmond and Katy. Personally I like being closer to amenities but it is a bit different.

Sounds like you lived close if not in Pecan Grove? I'm talking more so the area east of 99 right off the Westpark tollway. Grand Mission/Lakemont neighborhoods. I'm not much of a fan of the suburb/rural vibe myself. The unincorporated areas of Houston metro is one thing I really don't care for honestly. That's something I can value from DFW burbs. They're real cities and operate as such. So would you say the HEB area has more amenities than what you get in the areas closer to the unincorporated Richmond area east of 99?

[true_wu]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

Sounds like you lived close if not in Pecan Grove? I'm talking more so the area east of 99 right off the Westpark tollway. Grand Mission/Lakemont neighborhoods. I'm not much of a fan of the suburb/rural vibe myself. The unincorporated areas of Houston metro is one thing I really don't care for honestly. That's something I can value from DFW burbs. They're real cities and operate as such. So would you say the HEB area has more amenities than what you get in the areas closer to the unincorporated Richmond area east of 99?

HEB would probably have similar amenities to Katy or Sugarland

[loves2read]

Lived in HEB since early 80s
Amenities are not upscale bcuz the area is older
Colleyville is close
Southlake is close
FTW is close
Dallas a little longer drive but plenty of people go there on weekends to eat/have fun and many work there and commute

HEB schools are good but I admit the IB programs are not as popular or demanding as in prior years
You can get a good education in HEB or Birdville if you put in the work
Grapevine-Colleyville and Southlake Carroll get the benefit of demographics w/money and education and few apartment kids (none in Carroll)

The fact is there are not that many Black middle class families in either area from my experience
Lived in neighborhood in north Hurst for past 12 yrs
One of the newest, more $$
Far as I know there was 1 Black family, several SE Asians and Hispanics but mostly White
When our kids were growing up we lived in similar neighborhood for the times in Bedford
Same deal—1 Black middle class family...one of their sons was in my daughter’s class at school
Now their kids are grown but parents still live there
Neighborhood has held up very well over decades

So diversity yes in HEB ISD and mostly strong teaching
But many apartments which skew demographics