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Old 05-08-2017, 07:14 AM
 
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Passive aggressive approach? No one accused you of anything. Sometimes silence is golden.


LOL, I'M passive aggressive? That's rich.
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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That's just statistical noise. Those small percentages are completely meaningless. Extremely unlikely that he has any actual Native American ancestry. Same thing with the supposed Italian ancestry. Those results don't actually signify any direct Italian descent.
I would give more credence to the Italian ancestry for a middle eastern person. Same part of the world. I don't know enough about how these tests work to understand then how this guy pops up with NA if he doesn't actually have any. Was just repeating what his cousin showed me in the online results.

My priest was born in Italy and show quite a bit of middle eastern in his DNA. He said if you look at trade routes and migration patterns, it makes sense.
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:56 PM
 
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My maternal ggf is on the Dawes Roll, his mom was on the Choctaw Mississippi Roll. So my mom was able to show she was 1/8 Choctaw and eligible for tribal benefits, some of which she utilized.

When I rec'd my DNA results, nothing turned up for Native American which didn't surprise me a whit for many reasons - primarily 1) The DNA data base is still hit-or-miss due to lack of participation by many tribes and 2) As as been pointed out here and elsewhere, many tribes were unconcerned with "blood" lineage, i.e. adopted members were considered full members.

So the way I see it is if my NA ancestry was/is good enough to be accepted by the Choctaw Nation, it's good enough for me. I'm extremely pale-skinned with dark eyes and hair and don't look remotely NA. My 1/2 Choctaw, 1/2 Irish maternal ggf had blue eyes, brown hair, and fair skin.
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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Probably a high percent along and west of the Appalachians but very little along the East Coast. Also more further South, since the Cherokees frequently married Whites but the Northern tribes rarely did.

I'm 1/64th Cherokee myself. Half of Eastern Kentucky's "Maggard's" also have Cherokee blood. (2 Maggard brothers came to KY, one married an Indian, the other (one of my ancestors) didn't)
what is 1/64th. For a millisecond I pictured my ratched bits , mechanical set.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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...but you never know. A guy I work with, born in Syria, showed me his cousin's 23andme results. The cousin was also born in Syria. His DNA shows a very small percentage of Native American, estimated to be from an ancestor who lived in the 1700s. His other DNA is primarily Middle Eastern with Ashkenazi Jewish, some Italian and other southern Europe, and north African. Has no idea how this happened--but hey, people get around.
23andme also showed a very small % of Native American in me, which can't be true since I am a first generation immigrant from Russia, born in Russia. I think sites like 23andme and Ancestry are too US centric, so they flag any Finno-Ugric DNA as Native American, as those people crossed the land bridge from Siberia. In my case, "Native American" is probably Finn/Karelian/Livonian DNA.

Since your Syrian friend's cousin has Ashkenazi Jewish DNA, there is a chance that his Native American DNA came from that relative, who probably resided in Eastern Europe.
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Old 12-12-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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23andme also showed a very small % of Native American in me, which can't be true since I am a first generation immigrant from Russia, born in Russia. I think sites like 23andme and Ancestry are too US centric, so they flag any Finno-Ugric DNA as Native American, as those people crossed the land bridge from Siberia. In my case, "Native American" is probably Finn/Karelian/Livonian DNA.

Since your Syrian friend's cousin has Ashkenazi Jewish DNA, there is a chance that his Native American DNA came from that relative, who probably resided in Eastern Europe.
I just wanted to point out something. My family has been in the US (both sides of it) from the late 1600s for the most part - of course there are thousands of relatives as the pool expands back in time.

I had 23andme testing, and they showed me specifically Finnish ancestry, and not a drop of Native American ancestry.

Not arguing with you, just pointing out that 22andme doesn't automatically categorize Finnish as Native American.

So you have a mystery on your hands, apparently.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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Not anywhere as close to the number of white people who claim their great-great-great grandfather had a child with a native american (always male with the woman). I've seriously heard this 1000 times in my life. And 99% of the time it's been a NA female. Oh, the stories we tell.
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains
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23andme also showed a very small % of Native American in me, which can't be true since I am a first generation immigrant from Russia, born in Russia. I think sites like 23andme and Ancestry are too US centric, so they flag any Finno-Ugric DNA as Native American, as those people crossed the land bridge from Siberia. In my case, "Native American" is probably Finn/Karelian/Livonian DNA.

Since your Syrian friend's cousin has Ashkenazi Jewish DNA, there is a chance that his Native American DNA came from that relative, who probably resided in Eastern Europe.
Native Americans are ASIAN, their DNA is related to the Siberian people.
I am 25% Native American and some DNA calculators shows my 25% as North Korean or Siberian.
Also, my MtDNA is C1 (Native american), while my Y-DNA is R1b1b2a1a2f (European)
If you see the map for C1 Mtdna, we came from Asia.
The crazy news is that people from Iceland also have C1, Mtdna.



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Old 12-16-2017, 09:43 PM
 
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I remember when I was a child in Virginia, and the "in" thing was to have a Cherokee princess as a grandmother. All of my friends claimed to have one.
I have been hearing this all my life.The other one is having some kind of royal blood from Britain.
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Old 12-17-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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I have been hearing this all my life.The other one is having some kind of royal blood from Britain.
Actually if your ancestors were British colonials during the colonial days, you have a pretty decent chance of having some British "royal ancestry." This is because many of the early colonial settlers were "second sons" from prominent families or minor nobility - people who wouldn't inherit land in England but had some money and the means to own and develop land in "the new world."

And actually, most of us - maybe even all of us - do have some royal ancestry.

https://www.popsci.com/descended-from-royalty#page-3
Why We Are All Descended From Royalty, According To Math | IFLScience
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