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Old 05-04-2017, 08:08 AM
 
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I think it is cool that it is finally cool to be Native American. I think it is great that lots of non-natives come to powwows to enjoy the culture and that people enjoy Native American jewelry and house decorations. It is a far cry from the 1970s when my grandmother couldn't buy beer in a store because she was Native American or when my Greatgrandmother had to move my grandmother from the white school as a little girl to the Native American school because she threatened to kill the white kids who were bullying and torturing her.

When we were kids we used the term "wannabes" but as an adult I would never use the term. Why make fun of someone who is enjoying another culture? When I go abroad and change my ways to match the culture I am visiting I'm not a wannabe Italian or Asian, I'm simply enjoying learning about another culture and respecting it by fitting in.

It is like calling immigrants who move to American and dress like Americans "wannabe Americans". It sounds childish.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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Probably would depend on when your ancestors came to America, and where they moved to. My Irish ancestors came in the 1840's and stayed in NYC. My British and Italian ancestors came in the late 1800's and early 1900's and never left NYC.

Putting aside my own research, highly unlikely given the history of America that there would be Native Ancestry.
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Old 05-06-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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Probably would depend on when your ancestors came to America, and where they moved to. My Irish ancestors came in the 1840's and stayed in NYC. My British and Italian ancestors came in the late 1800's and early 1900's and never left NYC.

Putting aside my own research, highly unlikely given the history of America that there would be Native Ancestry.
...but you never know. A guy I work with, born in Syria, showed me his cousin's 23andme results. The cousin was also born in Syria. His DNA shows a very small percentage of Native American, estimated to be from an ancestor who lived in the 1700s. His other DNA is primarily Middle Eastern with Ashkenazi Jewish, some Italian and other southern Europe, and north African. Has no idea how this happened--but hey, people get around.
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Old 05-06-2017, 06:51 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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...but you never know. A guy I work with, born in Syria, showed me his cousin's 23andme results. The cousin was also born in Syria. His DNA shows a very small percentage of Native American, estimated to be from an ancestor who lived in the 1700s. His other DNA is primarily Middle Eastern with Ashkenazi Jewish, some Italian and other southern Europe, and north African. Has no idea how this happened--but hey, people get around.
That's just statistical noise. Those small percentages are completely meaningless. Extremely unlikely that he has any actual Native American ancestry. Same thing with the supposed Italian ancestry. Those results don't actually signify any direct Italian descent.
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Old 05-06-2017, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm part native American but I've never put that on a job application, unlike Pocahontas.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains
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I have Native American DNA, here is my DNA results, from Gedmatch Eurogenes K15:
Population
North_Sea 7.79
Atlantic 17.47
Baltic 5.95
Eastern_Euro 2.50
West_Med 13.59
West_Asian 2.39
East_Med 8.62
Red_Sea 3.15
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.60
Amerindian 26.67 <=====
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.24
Sub-Saharan 9.03
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Old 05-06-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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Look...I know these things. I'm not trying to be someone I'm not. I'm a suburbanite who grew up in a white bread American cheese life style.


It doesn't take away who my ancestors are though, and their story, and I can take some pride in that. My grandmother was 1/8...I certainly realize I'm pretty 'watered down'. I'm not trying to get benefits, not trying to 'walk the red trail' and I don't consider myself part of the tribe.


But I'm happy to say my ancestors were, and there's plenty of documentation on them.
Passive aggressive approach? No one accused you of anything. Sometimes silence is golden.
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Old 05-06-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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from 23andme research

they claim that 3.5% of European Americans, have African ancestry,
and 2.7% of European Americans, have Native Americans ancestry.
(if I read the study correctly).

Ive also seen 5% EuroAms have African ancestry
and 3% EuroAms have Native ancestry.

The first set of numbers is newer.
In theory, doesn't every single person ever born in the history of Planet Earth have African ancestry, since that is where we all came from tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years ago?

So 100% of Europe, 100% of Asia, 100% of South America, 100% of North America and 100% of Australia, should have African ancestry, you're all Africans if you think about it, you just have to go back far enough!

12 years ago, when I had my DNA tested for the Genographic Project from Nat Geo the results from my Y Chromosome came back Haplogroup E3b (M35), so even though I'm whiter than white, my Y Chromosome, started in Africa and left 15,000 or so years ago.

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Old 05-06-2017, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains
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In theory, doesn't every single person ever born in the history of Planet Earth have African ancestry, since that is where we all came from tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years ago?

So 100% of Europe, 100% of Asia, 100% of South America, 100% of North America and 100% of Australia, should have African ancestry, you're all Africans if you think about it, you just have to go back far enough!

12 years ago, when I had my DNA tested for the Genographic Project from Nat Geo the results from my Y Chromosome came back Haplogroup E3b (M35), so even though I'm whiter than white, my Y Chromosome, started in Africa and left 15,000 or so years ago.
My Y-DNA is: r1b1b2a1a2f*



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Old 05-08-2017, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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Since nobody was "Native American" (the people you speak of are Mongoloid, and came from Asia) and the true "Native Americans" were the people who were here in 1776 when the USA became a country, I would say a HUGE percentage of white people.
On the Indian Reservations throughout the west there are many US Military Veterans. The Navajos, Pimas, Sioux, Papago, Apache, Pueblo, Comanche, etc. all have proud US Military Veterans. I am shocked you would not consider them "American". They defended the US Constitution with their lives. The Navajo Code Talkers developed a code of communication in the South Pacific that was never broken. George Washington himself recommend indigenous warriors for the US Infantry. Go figure.

https://www.history.navy.mil/researc...-war-1945.html
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