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Old 10-02-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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The first high-speed rail line is being constructed in California where the voters approved higher taxes for the project. It comes down to values and a willingness to improve the environment. Naturally California leads the nation in these areas!
G_d, why!!! Take care of the $25 BILLION first and show the country you can balance a budget before trailblazing a new SUSTAINABLE infrastructure system in America.
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Old 10-02-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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If they make that train that go 200mph I will be the first to get my ticket! It would be great to go see my family in St. Louis from Chicago in an hour. Build it right now!!!!!
It will take us both closer to 2 hours (because there are stops)
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Construction hasn't started in California yet. Won't start intill 2012 , and will take 2x longer then any NE Project.
Yes they have. Routes are being cleared, contracts are being finalized, rail lines are being prepared. The bulk of the work has yet to start considering it is nearly a 500 mile route. But no other state has taken any independent action of allocating funds and getting projects started other than California.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Frankly, with all the texting and iphoning people are doing, I'd be terrified to get on a high speed train.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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G_d, why!!! Take care of the $25 BILLION first and show the country you can balance a budget before trailblazing a new SUSTAINABLE infrastructure system in America.
It's a $19 billion deficit [btw Texas has an $18 billion deficit]. California doesn't wait and twiddle its thumbs like the majority of states. Most progressive measures start in California.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:53 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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G_d, why!!! Take care of the $25 BILLION first and show the country you can balance a budget before trailblazing a new SUSTAINABLE infrastructure system in America.
In fairness, CA pays a sick amount of federal taxes for a very long time. If anybody deserves it, they do. As they have been thoroughly you know what by the federal government. The budget "problem" there is largely due to the progressive tax structure.
The Tax Foundation - Educating Taxpayers Since 1937 has all the data.

To Nexis, sorry to disappoint but the construction has definitely started, he is right, ground has been broken... it started in July 2010.

I for one am very excited about all of the new high speed rail across the country, so it is good that CA is off to a head start.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Most progressive measures start in California.
Yes. Most of the poop I expel starts with the crud being shoved down my throat.

It's all a good analogy.
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Old 10-02-2010, 11:01 PM
 
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In fairness, CA pays a sick amount of federal taxes for a very long time. If anybody deserves it, they do. As they have been thoroughly you know what by the federal government. The budget "problem" there is largely due to the progressive tax structure.
The Tax Foundation - Educating Taxpayers Since 1937 has all the data.

To Nexis, sorry to disappoint but the construction has definitely started, he is right, ground has been broken... it started in July 2010.

I for one am very excited about all of the new high speed rail across the country, so it is good that CA is off to a head start.
My family lives in SF now and they are PI$$ED about how the state handles its taxes, so maybe there's more to it. So you don't think the housing crisis in "bubble-prone" cities like LA and SF had nothing to do with it, huh?

There is, however, a lot of excitement about high-speed rail.
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Old 10-02-2010, 11:02 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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We need a coast to coast high speed rail line, I imagine it is the airlines fighting that. Are we so third world that we can't keep up with europe or Japan
Europe and Japan are probably about 50 years ahead of US in high speed trains...

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My family lives in SF now and they are PI$$ED about how the state handles its taxes, so maybe there's more to it. So you don't think the housing crisis in "bubble-prone" cities like LA and SF had nothing to do with it, huh?

There is, however, a lot of excitement about high-speed rail.
I'm sure it had a lot to do with it, but it isn't all there is to it, the bubble hit several states and cities, including here in Chicago.
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Old 10-02-2010, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Yes. Most of the poop I expel starts with the crud being shoved down my throat.

It's all a good analogy.
What are you talking about? Never mind!
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