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The Adirondack and Catskill Parks are, for all intents and purposes, analogous to National Forests, except of course they are administered by NY State. New York simply got to them before the Federal government could get their grubby hands on them. :-)
Is that 127 miles along southern Long Island or wrapped around it?
I believe Long Island is just under 120 miles long, measuring along the South Shore from Bay Ridge to Montauk. So if the Feds (NOAA) say that New York State has a ocean shoreline of 127 miles, I figure most of it is along the South Shore of Long Island. The additional mileage may possibly be along parts of Fishers, Gardiners, Plum and Staten Islands etc. Possibly also Orient Point on the North Fork.
Measuring a coastline is not exact and depends on what your defintion of a coastline is. It is possible that the New York ocean coastline is even longer than 127 miles. I say this because a quick glance at Wickapedia puts the Connecticut ocean shoreline at 96 miles, even though almost all of Connecticut's shoreline is on the Long Island Sound and not on the ocean.
Possibly if we counted the Long Island Sound shores in New York State (Long Island North Shore, Westchester County and New York City) as ocean shoreline the same way Connecticut does, then I believe we may have double the 127 ocean miles currently listed on Wickapedia.
National forest in NY state is the dominant land use in - 1 town in Schuyler County. Finger Lakes National Forest (and I remember when it was called "Hector Land Use Area" too ) STATE forests in NY are more than 100x larger, probably even occupying more of that county.
Although PA has the more significant Allegheny National Forest, the state forests there too are collectively much larger - the public lands of northern PA, rebranded by the last administration PA Wilds - Pennsylvania Wilds form a tract larger than the Catskill Park of NY, with a different history containing oil and coal as well as the newly available gas.
Both Pennsylvania and New York have protected huge areas of land for conversation or recreation. Alot of people know about the Adirondack and the Catskill parks, areas so large you can put several of the smaller states in. But as you mention, alot of people do not know about the state forests in Pennsylvania and New York, or about the state hunting areas in Pennsylvania or the Multy Use areas in New York.
Thank God for the Mennonites. They run wonderful stores.
Also don't forget the amish are operators of most puppy mills and are also big polluters. Although i don't think they intentionally do things, it's just a different mind set.
-Southeast PA=NJ=downstate NY
-rest of PA=rest of NY
Nothing wrong with this at all. Southeast PA lacks the Pine Barrens and the Jersey Shore/Long Island beaches. Rest of PA sort of lacks places of like the Thousand Islands. But overall , I agree with what you said.
Both PA and NY claim to have the Grand Canyons of the East or something like that.
Not only does New York have a relatively long ocean coastline, but it must also have a large percentage of freshwater borders, too - Ontario and Erie, Lake Champlain, Niagara and St Lawrence Rivers, Delaware River...
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) STATE forests in NY are more than 100x larger, probably even occupying more of that county.
