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Old 06-24-2011, 02:51 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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For most of the nation’s history, the Atlantic region — primarily New York City — has dominated the nation’s trade. In the last few decades of the 20th Century, the Pacific, led by Los Angeles and Long Beach, gained prominence. Now we may be about to see the ascendancy of a third coast: the Gulf, led primarily by Houston but including New Orleans and a host of smaller ports across the regions.

The Rise Of The Third Coast: The Gulf Region

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Old 06-24-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Interesting read. Thanks for posting. I had heard about the widening of the Panama Canal, though I had not really given it much thought.

Things do look promising for the Gulf Coast for the short and medium terms, though I do worry a bit about long-term environmental consequences.
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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I do worry a bit about long-term environmental consequences.
I keep hearing that. What particularly are you concerned about???

The increase in industrialization, or the ship activity itself???
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Probably any more spills or the deterioration of the coast, mainly LA, I don't know if it's as dire in other states.
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:38 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Interesting read. Thanks for posting. I had heard about the widening of the Panama Canal, though I had not really given it much thought.

Things do look promising for the Gulf Coast for the short and medium terms, though I do worry a bit about long-term environmental consequences.
Texas for example is the first exporter in the nation, this thing will improve that more, and Louisiana could have interesting gain too.It's great for jobs and investments.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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Probably any more spills or the deterioration of the coast, mainly LA, I don't know if it's as dire in other states.
but the spills could come from any ship, and the expansion is strongly geared for Asian ships which are most likely carrying things other than oil.

So I dunno if I would be any more concerned with spills. The ones that are going in and out right now are the ones you should me MORE scared of
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I'm only scared if LA doesn't respond with expanded ports and incentives.
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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I'm only scared if LA doesn't respond with expanded ports and incentives.
The ships don't want to go threw the Panama Canal because they are building it. No it is the other way around. They are building the Canal to allow more ships easy access to the interior of the country and the east.

Coming threw LA you have so much distance to travel to get to the rest of the US. Coming threw the Canal, and unloading at a Port such as Port of Houston you are centrally located and there is a good distribution system via highways and railroads.

look up how long it takes to get to 95% of the country from LA versus somewhere like Dallas or Chicago.

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Old 06-25-2011, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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expanded ports won't do **** if the ships are going elsewhere. The ships don't want to go threw the Panama Canal because they are building it. No it is the other way around. They are building the Canal to allow more ships easy access to the interior of the country and the east.

Coming threw LA you have so much distance to travel to get to the rest of the US. Coming threw the Canal, and unloading at a Port such as Port of Houston you are centrally located and there is a good distribution system via highways and railroads.

look up how long it takes to get to 95% of the country from LA versus somewhere like Dallas or Chicago.
Of course. Large ships, not the new ones, can travel a decent ways inland via the river before unloading cargo at places like Memphis. South LA has direct routes to Chicago, Jacksonville, Los Angeles, Jackson, Montgomery, Texas, Phoenix, St. Louis, etc. It's not that hard to many major cities from here. It's either a direct shot to places like Chicago, or nearly a direct shot to cities like Kansas City.
Rail is better set up with Houston and especially Dallas, but this is years in the future, when we could have set up incentives and things. Our port handles more cargo for a reason, but the Port of Houston is a huge competition.

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Old 06-25-2011, 03:41 PM
 
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That all sounds great! Success in one area of the nation is good for all areas!
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