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Health care and housing only industries with job growth, 1.7 million jobs added in health care since 2001, healthcare costs rising 8-12% per year

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Old 09-15-2006, 07:25 AM
 
Location: MI
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Interesting statistics found today in an article... and shows you why health care costs are going up 8-12% every year. If not for health care and housing the past 5 years we'd have no job growth in the country; and now one of those 2 pillars (housing) is going to see a slump...

"The health-care industry has added 1.7 million jobs since 2001.

The rest of the private sector has added none, as a gain of 900,000 jobs in the housing sector has been offset by losses elsewhere. (BusinessWeek)"
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:49 AM
 
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I am not surprised. Heathcare is the only industry that can't be shipped overseas. We used to be the richest countryin the world. We used to make most of the products used around the world and we used to feed most of the world. We've given that all away. Now we depend on the other countries to supply us. Heaven forbid we should ever get in a conflict with China!
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Nowhere near Elko, NV
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I am not surprised. Heathcare is the only industry that can't be shipped overseas. We used to be the richest countryin the world. We used to make most of the products used around the world and we used to feed most of the world. We've given that all away. Now we depend on the other countries to supply us. Heaven forbid we should ever get in a conflict with China!
It's worse than you think. A lot of the high-margin healthcare jobs *can* be shipped overseas. Radiologists, for example, can do reads remotely. Nothing prevents hospitals from investing in a PACS and setting up a bunch of reading workstations in Bangalore. Once we set up Indian specialists to get reimbursed by Medicare and once they figure out it's cheaper to buy granny a ticket to Guatemala for her hip replacement, it's off to the races.

The cleaning of bedpans and mopping of floors can't be outsourced, though.

Magpies
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:09 PM
 
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The cleaning of bedpans and mopping of floors can't be outsourced, though.

Magpies
Bedpans?Floors? Aren't those menial tasks that Americans just won't do?
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Nowhere near Elko, NV
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Bedpans?Floors? Aren't those menial tasks that Americans just won't do?
Give that person a cigar!

Magpies
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:32 PM
 
Location: The Big D
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LOL!!! Too funny.


But seriously I have to say that we do in fact have people in this country that are just flat out lazy. As an employer in a LARGE metropolitan area it is hard to find good people. For a year now we have been trying to fill two positions. They are both the same job but require certain qualifications that are EASY to get (no college required at all). Now we have 4 positions open after one employee relocated w/ a spouse that got transfered out of state.

Why is it so dadgum hard. Pay is very good, if not above average for what I have seen posted around the country and our cost of living is lower. Health & Dental insurance. Regular workweek (M-F). Two positions require rotating Saturdays (so you work one Saturday a month from 9-1). Chance to advance is there for the willing person as we do like to promote from within. But we ALWAYS have people showing up to apply w/o any of the required qualifications.

Then, when you do find someone it never fails we can always tell if somone is going to work out or not the first week. If it is one that will probably be leaving real soon they always seem to have "appointments" scheduled the first week on the job. This is before we hardly even know the persons name, the first day there they are asking off for some days THAT WEEK!!! Then the ones that come strolling in late w/o even bothering to call anyone, repeatedly. Don't show up but call about lunch time, they overslept. Oh, they can't work till 5 (or 4) as they have to be somewhere. But dadgumit, they still want to be paid for a full week. We have customers that have to be taken care of, they don't give a rats behind if you overslept. They have a business to run to and if we don't take care of them they will find someone else. We pride ourselves on customer service (something sorely missing nowadays at a lot of places). We care about our employees and their families and take care of them. But what gives. Seriously? I put some openings on an internet jobs site and we got lots of hits and a few resumes but not even half had the qualifications that are REQUIRED and spelled out in black & white.

Okay, sorry to bore everyone with this but it is tiring to hear about people complaining about not finding a job when I know there are jobs out there. We hear it daily from our vendors all the way to our customers. There are plenty of good jobs out there for those willing to work. That is why nowadays most new hires came from someone they knew from either a vendor or customer. They already know the person works hard and is a good employee and they saved A TON of money by not having to advertise.

That just my experience.
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Old 09-15-2006, 02:29 PM
 
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Wow, Momof2, wish we lived near each other. What I find now a days is that employers don't seem to care about their employees. That would have to be our biggest complaint since we moved here to FL. I wish you luck!
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Old 09-15-2006, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Okay, sorry to bore everyone with this but it is tiring to hear about people complaining about not finding a job when I know there are jobs out there. We hear it daily from our vendors all the way to our customers. There are plenty of good jobs out there for those willing to work. That is why nowadays most new hires came from someone they knew from either a vendor or customer. They already know the person works hard and is a good employee and they saved A TON of money by not having to advertise.

That just my experience.
I don't know what work you are in, but I don't totally agree.
I am looking for a regular full time job, as I currently only do part time work. Employers seem to not care that I am college educated and they want people with experience only. This goes for even the lower pay/blue collar jobs that don't require experience.
There was a time when people were more willing to train others for a job. Nowadays it seems that employers want someone with experience (even for some "crap" jobs) and prefer them over a college educated person.
Employers would rather hire someone with some experience yet with no college education over someone with a college education and the ability and ambition to learn the skills they are looking for.....
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids, MN
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Interesting thread.

I recently served on a committee for a local task force whose goal is to unite the public, private and educational sectors in an effort to improve the future economic health of our region. One of the first things they did in the research phase was to collect data from the various groups.

They found that the number one complaint from the employers is the fact that today's young people lack very basic "soft" skills...i.e., showing up on time, presenting a professional appearance, dealing effectively with customers and supervisors, staying on task and not having to be re-directed every 5 minutes...etc.

When the business and educational leaders got together to talk about this, some of the "logical" issues came up. Employers need to take at least some of the blame for things like low wages, lack of benefits, inflexible scheduling, unpleasant working conditions. Schools need to take at least some of the blame for failing to prepare our students academically for college and post-secondary training.

But a big question came up: whose job is it to teach those basic "life" skills? Most of us would agree that this is the parents' responsibility. Far too often schools, employers and social serivice providers find themselves dealing with young people who can't function appropriately at work, at school or in society. 99% of the time their parents are one of the following:

-enablers...angry at "the system" themselves, have a sense of "entitlement"
-helpless...in spite of good intentions, have completely lost control of their own kids
-dysfunctional...can't take care of themselves--drug addicts, alcoholics, etc.

I don't know where this "breakdown" in society occured, or who is initally to blame. Parents? Schools? Employers? The government? "Society" at large? It's the proverbial chicken and egg. And even if we could pinpoint the source, what is the cause? Is it a generational problem? An economic problem? Lack of planning? Greed?

Lots of questions, few answers, no apparent solution.

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Old 09-15-2006, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Yeah, it sucks when you get that "over-qualified" speech!
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