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Old 01-05-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I think this clears up which metro's keep the most affluent African Americans discussion. Very interesting that 5 of the top 10 are in Prince George's County, MD while LA and New York area make up the rest. Below list the towns with their median income:


1. View Park-Windsor Hills, CA- $159,168
2. Baldwin Hills, CA- $157,033
3. Ladera Heights, CA- $132,824
4. Mitchellville, MD- $118,022
5. Fort Washington, MD- $114,243
6. Kettering, MD- $107,008
7. Woodmore, MD- $103,438
8. Friendly, MD- $82,827
9. Hillcrest, NY- $76,960
10. Uniondale, NY- $76,553

10 of the Richest Black Communities in America - Atlanta Black Star

Couple of things noticed are the absence of communities in the Atlanta area which obviously has a much cheaper cost of living therefore not comparing in overall income to DC, LA, NY areas. And as far as the designation of what some of these communities are I'm not sure what the criteria is. Woodmore is really a part of Mitchellville/Bowie, MD, just as Friendly is only a small area of Fort Washington around Friendly High School i don't know of anyone who has a Friendly, MD address. Kettering is actually a subdivision in Upper Marlboro, MD. But I am pretty proud to see my hometown Mitchellville, MD in at #4 in the country !!!
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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I think this clears up which metro's keep the most affluent African Americans discussion. Very interesting that 5 of the top 10 are in Prince George's County, MD while LA and New York area make up the rest. Below list the towns with their median income:


1. View Park-Windsor Hills, CA- $159,168
2. Baldwin Hills, CA- $157,033
3. Ladera Heights, CA- $132,824
4. Mitchellville, MD- $118,022
5. Fort Washington, MD- $114,243
6. Kettering, MD- $107,008
7. Woodmore, MD- $103,438
8. Friendly, MD- $82,827
9. Hillcrest, NY- $76,960
10. Uniondale, NY- $76,553

10 of the Richest Black Communities in America - Atlanta Black Star

Couple of things noticed are the absence of communities in the Atlanta area which obviously has a much cheaper cost of living therefore not comparing in overall income to DC, LA, NY areas. And as far as the designation of what some of these communities are I'm not sure what the criteria is. Woodmore is really a part of Mitchellville/Bowie, MD, just as Friendly is only a small area of Fort Washington around Friendly High School i don't know of anyone who has a Friendly, MD address. Kettering is actually a subdivision in Upper Marlboro, MD. But I am pretty proud to see my hometown Mitchellville, MD in at #4 in the country !!!
Also, you can find predominately Black neighborhoods in many cities with relatively high median HH incomes. Here is one example: Census Block Group 004300-4 in Erie County, New York
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:57 PM
 
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Also, you can find predominately Black neighborhoods in many cities with relatively high median HH incomes. Here is one example: Census Block Group 004300-4 in Erie County, New York
Which is why I would like to know the criteria used here and how the boundaries of which neighborhoods are determined. The pic of the one you posted only seems to be like a 3 block radius.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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Which is why I would like to know the criteria used here and how the boundaries of which neighborhoods are determined. The pic of the one you posted only seems to be like a 3 block radius.
That is why it is called a census block group. I think that area posted had 9 blocks. Here's a streetview: Google Maps Street View

I think the article is going by incorporated or census designed places(aka cdp's for the latter).
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Old 01-06-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Oakland & Los Angeles, CA
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I think this clears up which metro's keep the most affluent African Americans discussion. Very interesting that 5 of the top 10 are in Prince George's County, MD while LA and New York area make up the rest. Below list the towns with their median income:


1. View Park-Windsor Hills, CA- $159,168
2. Baldwin Hills, CA- $157,033
3. Ladera Heights, CA- $132,824
4. Mitchellville, MD- $118,022
5. Fort Washington, MD- $114,243
6. Kettering, MD- $107,008
7. Woodmore, MD- $103,438
8. Friendly, MD- $82,827
9. Hillcrest, NY- $76,960
10. Uniondale, NY- $76,553

10 of the Richest Black Communities in America - Atlanta Black Star

Couple of things noticed are the absence of communities in the Atlanta area which obviously has a much cheaper cost of living therefore not comparing in overall income to DC, LA, NY areas. And as far as the designation of what some of these communities are I'm not sure what the criteria is. Woodmore is really a part of Mitchellville/Bowie, MD, just as Friendly is only a small area of Fort Washington around Friendly High School i don't know of anyone who has a Friendly, MD address. Kettering is actually a subdivision in Upper Marlboro, MD. But I am pretty proud to see my hometown Mitchellville, MD in at #4 in the country !!!
Yes, and Baldwin Hills is just a neighborhood of Los Angeles (residents there still have to put Los Angeles or L.A. on their postage). Even most residents of Ladera Heights and View Park-Windsor Hills put "Los Angeles, CA" on all of their postage (despite these two communities being outside of the city limits and officially recognized as unincorporated Los Angeles County).

I agree that there needs to be a distinction on what "community" means. Is it correct to include both independent towns and small neighborhoods of large cities on the same list? In any event, it's nice to know where you can go if being around affluent Blacks is your thing.

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Old 01-06-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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Yes, and Baldwin Hills is just a neighborhood of Los Angeles (residents there still have to put Los Angeles or L.A. on their postage). Even most residents of Ladera Heights and View Park-Windsor Hills put "Los Angeles, CA" on all of their postage (despite these two communities being outside of the city limits and officially recognized as unincorporated Los Angeles County).

I agree that there needs to be a distinction on what "community" means. Is it correct to include both independent towns and small neighborhoods of large cities on the same list? In any event, it's nice to know where you can go if being around affluent Blacks is your thing.
Also, this is for predominately Black neighborhoods/communities and there are other neighborhoods/communities where the Black median HH income is well above the national median HH income(around $51-53,000). Here is an example: Census Tract 010201 in Erie County, New York
Census Tract 010201 in Erie County, New York Income and Careers
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Old 01-06-2014, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I think this clears up which metro's keep the most affluent African Americans discussion. Very interesting that 5 of the top 10 are in Prince George's County, MD while LA and New York area make up the rest. Below list the towns with their median income:


1. View Park-Windsor Hills, CA- $159,168
2. Baldwin Hills, CA- $157,033
3. Ladera Heights, CA- $132,824
4. Mitchellville, MD- $118,022
5. Fort Washington, MD- $114,243
6. Kettering, MD- $107,008
7. Woodmore, MD- $103,438
8. Friendly, MD- $82,827
9. Hillcrest, NY- $76,960
10. Uniondale, NY- $76,553

10 of the Richest Black Communities in America - Atlanta Black Star

Couple of things noticed are the absence of communities in the Atlanta area which obviously has a much cheaper cost of living therefore not comparing in overall income to DC, LA, NY areas. And as far as the designation of what some of these communities are I'm not sure what the criteria is. Woodmore is really a part of Mitchellville/Bowie, MD, just as Friendly is only a small area of Fort Washington around Friendly High School i don't know of anyone who has a Friendly, MD address. Kettering is actually a subdivision in Upper Marlboro, MD. But I am pretty proud to see my hometown Mitchellville, MD in at #4 in the country !!!
The article says "10 of the Richest" but your title says, "The 10 Richest". It's not the same thing.

Oakland has some majority Black neighborhoods that would compare to those^

Here, by census tract:

Tract/Neighborhood/Average Family Income
4077 Maxwell Park............$95,409
4078 Maxwell Park/Frick....$74,922
4082 Millsmont.................$79,697
4083 Eastmont Hills..........$73,088
4098 Toler Heights............$94,126
4099 Sequoyah................$140,312
4100 Chabot Park.............$109,811
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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The article says "10 of the Richest" but your title says, "The 10 Richest". It's not the same thing.

Oakland has some majority Black neighborhoods that would compare to those^

Here, by census tract:

Tract/Neighborhood/Average Family Income
4077 Maxwell Park............$95,409
4078 Maxwell Park/Frick....$74,922
4082 Millsmont.................$79,697
4083 Eastmont Hills..........$73,088
4098 Toler Heights............$94,126
4099 Sequoyah................$140,312
4100 Chabot Park.............$109,811
I just noticed that the article is for median family income and not household income. In that case the small census block group area of Buffalo posted before has a median family income of $131,667(median HH income for Blacks is $121,618). So, depending on what census division information is being used, you can find such areas in various places.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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I just noticed that the article is for median family income and not household income. In that case the small census block group area of Buffalo posted before has a median family income of $131,667(median HH income for Blacks is $121,618). So, depending on what census division information is being used, you can find such areas in various places.
The article is based actually based on 'average family income', which actually tends to be higher than 'median family income'

Average Family Income in the Census Bureau is designated "Mean Family Income"
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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The article is based actually based on 'average family income', which actually tends to be higher than 'median family income'

Average Family Income in the Census Bureau is designated "Mean Family Income"
True and in that case, that Buffalo census block goes up to $143,565 for the mean family income.
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