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I am from Upstate NY and agree with this to a degree.
From Syracuse to Buffalo, it feels more transitional into the Midwest. From Utica to Albany, including the Adirondacks and Catskills, its much more hilly and mountainous. Lots of valleys and such. Very New England-ish vibe.
Although, what exactly does it mean to be "New England" in the first place? They didn't put a patent on fall foliage, hills, mountains and rivers. From Virginia through Pennsylvania to Jersey, it all could be the same thing. What truly separates New England from the Mid-Atlantic, visually speaking? The most beautiful part of New England is Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine. Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island aren't nearly as picturesque as the other three.
Coastal aesthetic? Virginia, Delaware and New Jersey don't have coasts?
Good points. The western part of upstate NY isn't New England-y. I was thinking of what I've seen north of me.
^ Basically, as this explains the "stereotypically New England" aspect that I was thinking of.
Or the granite, such as you find in Middlebury, Vermont. You plop someone down on the street in Middlebury and they would say, "Damn, I am in a New England town!"
Upstate New York should come as no surprise. Vermont used to be part of New York state
Right - I'm not sure why NY is being brought up, as it's nearly a part of NE by default locale. The WI/MI and FL ones are the only interesting ones so far.
I feel like they're obvious difference between upstate NY and New England, hard to describe in words. But I've spent lots of time in both, and not so much in the rest of the country. Someone from another part of the country would see more similarities than differences. Most Minnesotan towns, would feel much more different from either.
Particularly outside the Hudson Valley, upstate towns often don't feel quite as old and have somewhat less brick buildings and more often have a grid. But is there an obvious difference between say, Greenfield MA and Owego NY?
I am from Upstate NY and agree with this to a degree.
From Syracuse to Buffalo, it feels more transitional into the Midwest. From Utica to Albany, including the Adirondacks and Catskills, its much more hilly and mountainous. Lots of valleys and such. Very New England-ish vibe.
Upstate NY in general is more farmed in both the valleys and hills compared to New England. Upstate NY appears roughly 50-50 farmland / forest; while New England is more 2-1 or even 3-1 forest to farmland. Of course, depends on where in upstate NY; the Catskills is almost all forest.
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In the reverse, I'd say eastern New England (eastern Massachusetts, Rhode Island and up the coast) tends to look more distinctive than western New England towns; though of course Vermont villages have a stereotypical New England look
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