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Old 02-15-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for though. Usually low COL areas lack amenities, jobs etc etc and that's why the cost is so low.


Something like NYC or SF, COL is high there b/c look @ what these cities have. It's all relative.
But you have to be a yuppie or a tech nerd to live comfortably in those cities.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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But you have to be a yuppie or a tech nerd to live comfortably in those cities.
Not true. Do you think NYC is all young people?


Many people of all ages and professions live here and do just fine.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for though. Usually low COL areas lack amenities, jobs etc etc and that's why the cost is so low.


Something like NYC or SF, COL is high there b/c look @ what these cities have. It's all relative.
That's not true. High cost of living has to do with supply/demand balances, political and economic policies that encourage costs to rise much quicker that the national average, high tax burden, high density (then people complain about lack of affordable housing), ect. Chicago has an enormous number of recreational assets, but has a low cost of living. Yet San Francisco has a COL over 6x the national average, has epidemic homelessness and drug use, and pretty much priced the average resident out of homeownership. This has very little to do with "you get what you pay for". It's usually the opposite. Value is key. When COL is attached to so much of what we do in our lives, it can't help but have an effect on quality of life. I live in Charlotte and lived in Orlando and Boston in the past. Charlotte's and Orlando's costs of living are a fraction of that of Boston's. But in terms of unique recreational assets, I found more to do in Orlando and Charlotte than in Boston (especially outdoor recreation). All three areas have the arts, museums, sports, ballets, etc. I loved Boston and there was a lot to do. But I got/get much, MUCH more bang for my buck in Charlotte and Orlando. To a certain extent, some of this IS relative. We all have our own preferences and tastes. But that there is a correlation between COL and "you get what you pay for" is not true for the most part. IF that were true, the "best" and the most expensive would always go hand in hand, and that's not true at all. That's a mindset that can keep people in debt and not get a good value on the dollars they spend. Not trying to be unkind, but this is an example of some C-Ders just not able to properly analyze data, economic laws, and cost/benefit comparisons.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:53 PM
 
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That's not true. High cost of living has to do with supply/demand balances, political and economic policies that encourage costs to rise much quicker that the national average, high tax burden, high density (then people complain about lack of affordable housing), ect. Chicago has an enormous number of recreational assets, but has a low cost of living. Yet San Francisco has a COL over 6x the national average, has epidemic homelessness and drug use, and pretty much priced the average resident out of homeownership. This has very little to do with "you get what you pay for". It's usually the opposite. Value is key. When COL is attached to so much of what we do in our lives, it can't help but have an effect on quality of life. I live in Charlotte and lived in Orlando and Boston in the past. Charlotte's and Orlando's costs of living are a fraction of that of Boston's. But in terms of unique recreational assets, I found more to do in Orlando and Charlotte than in Boston (especially outdoor recreation). All three areas have the arts, museums, sports, ballets, etc. I loved Boston and there was a lot to do. But I got/get much, MUCH more bang for my buck in Charlotte and Orlando. To a certain extent, some of this IS relative. We all have our own preferences and tastes. But that there is a correlation between COL and "you get what you pay for" is not true for the most part. IF that were true, the "best" and the most expensive would always go hand in hand, and that's not true at all. That's a mindset that can keep people in debt and not get a good value on the dollars they spend. Not trying to be unkind, but this is an example of some C-Ders just not able to properly analyze data, economic laws, and cost/benefit comparisons.
The most expenisive cities ARE the best. 8 million ppl live in NYC for a reason. The demand of ppl wanting to live here makes the prices go up. People from NY are moving to Charlotte, yes, but bc it is cheaper not because they want to. If Charlotte was so awesome & had what NYC had it too would be up there with NYC & SF.

Chicago has 10.25% sales tax if I recall. Higher than NYC. COL isn’t insanely that drastic of a difference
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for though. Usually low COL areas lack amenities, jobs etc etc and that's why the cost is so low.


Something like NYC or SF, COL is high there b/c look @ what these cities have. It's all relative.
A true marketing dream. Just up the price and you'll come with wallet open.
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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A true marketing dream. Just up the price and you'll come with wallet open.

8 MILLION PEOPLE ... 8 MILLION. So yes they are coming
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:56 PM
 
Location: OC
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But you have to be a yuppie or a tech nerd to live comfortably in those cities.
You need some self-esteem
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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You need some self-esteem
This thread is about other people, not me.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Norteh Bajo Americano
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I say love yourself. Bend your middle finger down and put your thumb over it to hold it down. Then your 2nd and 4th finger and cross them. Put the cross finger touching your heart which is halfway between your nipple and breastbone. Feel the rhythm of your heart and say I love myself and I love my city.followed by 3 sets of 16ths. Say it three times. Then switch fingers. It is amazing. Youll notice the heartbeat will change with one extra beat per minute. That extra beat is for you. Love yourself! Dont listen what people say. Just love you.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:18 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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There are some people here on C-D and outside of C-D who have an inferiority complex about their cities. They feel that their cities don't measure up to other cities. I had that same issue about living in Cleveland, and I still battle with it at times. So, what advice would you give that person?
Move!!!
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