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Old 03-29-2020, 03:53 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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6) Ski resort areas of Colorado and Utah

Don't forget Idaho too.

https://time.com/5811938/blaine-coun...o-coronavirus/

A scenic Idaho county known as a ski-vacation haven for celebrities and the wealthy has a new, more dubious distinction: It has one of the highest per-capita rates of confirmed coronavirus infections in America.

Numbers from Johns Hopkins University on Friday show that with more than 80 confirmed cases of COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, Blaine County has the highest rate of cases outside New York City and its surrounding counties.

The numbers themselves are far smaller in the Idaho region than in New York City but still dire for residents. At least 14 of the cases in the rural county of roughly 22,000 people involved health care workers, and at least two people have died from COVID-19.

The county includes tony Sun Valley Resort and draws skiers and outdoor enthusiasts from around the world. It’s also known as a celebrity getaway, thanks in part to its history of famous second homeowners and vacation regulars including Ernest Hemingway, Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, Arnold Schwarzenegger and others. During ski season, roughly 30,000 people land at the county airport.
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Old 03-29-2020, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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good stuff.

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I have the answer in full detail.

Based on this data I would identify 7 legitimate hotspots as of now:
1) NYC and suburbs
2) New Orleans and suburbs
3) Albany, GA
4) Detroit and suburbs
5) Boston and suburbs
6) Ski resort areas of Colorado and Utah
7) Seattle and suburbs

I do not consider South Florida and especially not California as hotspots per capita. The data shows this. Chicago, Philadelphia, and Nashville seem to be tettering for now.

I wanted to dive into the data of where the virus is most blooming. Below are all counties that as of now have more than 1,000 reported total cases:

New York, NY: 30,766
Westchester, NY: 7,874
Nassau, NY: 5,537
Suffolk, NY: 4,138
Cook, IL: 2,613
Wayne, MI: 2,316
King, WA: 2,079
Rockland, NY: 1,986
Bergen, NJ: 1,838
Los Angeles, CA: 1,804
Orleans, LA: 1,298
Miami-Dade, FL: 1,121
Orange, NY: 1,101
Essex, NJ: 1,086
Oakland, MI: 1,018

This list will no doubt grow, so Ill try and keep track of it day by day.

Another metric that isnt looked at often enough is testing. Below are the number of tests preformed by state relative to the number of positives given. To me, this is the most shocking metric. The data varies WILDLY from state to state. The word "total" represents the number of tests, the word "positives" represents the number of people who tested positive for Novel Coronavirus from those tests, and the word "Odds" is the percentage of people who test positive out of the total number of tests given. Its that last number that's crazy to me on a state by state level. I listed all with over 2,000 positive cases:

New York:
Total - 155,934
Positives - 52,318
Odds - 34%

New Jersey:
Total - 30,510
Positives - 11,214
Odds - 37%

California:
Total - 89,592
Positives - 4,643
Odds - 5%

Massachusetts:
Total - 35,049
Positives - 4,257
Odds - 12%

Florida:
Total - 39,129
Positives - 3,763
Odds - 9%

Washington:
Total - 52,738
Positives - 3,723
Odds - 7%

Michigan:
Total - 12,766
Positives - 3,657
Odds - 29%

Illinois:
Total - 25,491
Positives - 3,491
Odds - 14%

Louisiana:
Total - 25,161
Positives - 3,315
Odds - 13%

Pennsylvania:
Total - 28,005
Positives - 2,571
Odds - 9%

Georgia:
Total - 11,051
Positives - 2,366
Odds - 21%

Texas:
Total - 25,260
Positives - 2,052
Odds - 7%

Per Capita, here is where the counties above (plus some other hot spots) rank:

By county, percentage of total population who has tested positive for Novel Coronavirus. Ive included all major counties and some smaller ones where the percentage is relatively high:

The ones that have a per capita rate of over .001% could be considered hot spots IMO:

Westchester, NY: .008%
Rockland, NY: .005%
Nassau, NY: .004%
Orleans, LA: .003%
Dougherty, GA: .003%
Suffolk, NY: .003%
Orange, NY: .003%
New York, NY: .003%
Eagle, CO: .003%
Union, NJ: .003%
Summit, UT: .003%
Jefferson, LA: .002%
Passaic, NJ: .002%
Ocean, NJ: .002%
Hudson, NJ: .002%
Bergen, NJ: .002%
Somerset, NJ: .001%
Monmouth, NJ: .001%
James City, VA: .001%
Snohomish, WA: .001%
Fairfield, CT: .001%
Middlesex, NJ: .001%
Wayne, MI: .001%
Essex, NJ: .001%
Suffolk, MA: .001%
Bartow, GA: .001%
Tippah, MS: .001%

King, WA: .0009%
Ascension, LA: .0009%
Dutchess, NY: .0009%

Caddo, LA: .0008%
Chittenden, VT: .0008%
Oakland, MI: .0008%

Marion, IN: .0007%

Denver, CO: .0006%
Essex, MA: .0006%
Norfolk, MA: .0006%
Montgomery, PA: .0006%
Davidson, TN: .0006%
Milwaukee, WI: .0006%
Macomb, MI: .0006%
Gallatan, MT: .0006%

Cumberland, ME: .0005%
St. Tammany, LA: .0005%
Middlesex, MA: .0005%
Delaware, PA: .0005%
Cook, IL: .0005%
Washentaw, MI: .0005%
Sumner, TN: .0005%
Williamson, TN: .0005%
District of Columbia: .0005%
Philadelphia, PA: .0005%

Fulton, GA: .0004%
Worchester, MA: .0004%
Johnson, IA: .0004%
Miami-Dade, FL: .0004%
Broward, FL: .0004%
Shelby, AL: .0004%
Bucks, PA: .0004%
DeSoto, MS: .0004%
Erie, NY: .0004%
Dekalb, GA: .0004%
Lake, IL: .0004%

Hinds, MS: .0003%
Fairfax, VA: .0003%
Cuyahoga, OH: .0003%
Mecklenburg, NC: .0003%
Shelby, TN: .0003%
Washington, MS: .0003%
Santa Clara, CA: .0003%
Clark, NV: .0003%
East Baton Rouge, LA: .0003%
Jefferson, AL: .0003%
Arapaho, CO: .0003%
Hartford, CT: .0003%
New Haven, CT: .0003%
Wyandotte, KS: .0003%
Montgomery, MD: .0003%
St. Louis: .0003%
Rockingham, NH: .0003%
Hillsborough, NH: .0003%
Prince George's, MD: .0003%
Marion, OR: .0003%
Washington, OR: .0003%

Franklin, OH: .0002%
Dupage, IL: .0002%
Cobb, GA: .0002%
Baltimore, MD: .0002%
Los Angeles, CA: .0002%
Brazoria, TX: .0002%
Brazos, TX: .0002%
Fayette, KY: .0002%
Kansas City, MO: .0002%
Palm Beach, FL: .0002%
Orange, FL: .0002%
Salt Lake, UT: .0002%
Hillsborough, FL: .0002%
Dallas, TX: .0002%
Travis, TX: .0002%
Alameda, CA: .0002%
Allegheny, PA: .0002%
Lake, IN: .0002%
Denton, TX: .0002%

Fort Bend, TX: .0001%
McClennan, TX: .0001%
Smith, TX: .0001%
Multnomah, OR: .0001%
Oklahoma, OH: .0001%
Bernalilo, NM: .0001%
Hennepin, MN: .0001%
Douglas, NE: .0001%
Jefferson, KY: .0001%
Pima, AZ: .0001%
Collin, TX: .0001%
San Diego, CA: .0001%
Orange, CA: .0001%
Maricopa, AZ: .0001%

Bexar, TX: .00007%
Riverside, CA: .00007%
Sedgwick, KS: .00006%
Tarrant, TX: .00006%
Harris, TX: .00005%
San Bernadino, CA: .00003%
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:28 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I agree with you 100%. We were there two weeks ago, and while the northern states were working on plans, Florida's beaches were full, Ft. Meyers and Naples restaurants were packed with the streets full of people, and to date there is no lock down. It is just a matter of time (although sincerely I hope not) that that lack of care manifests itself into something far worse.
This is Florida's problem. It's still "Winter" in parts of the USA, and tourists still come. Yet others come to Florida during this crisis to their second homes. Even if a tourist leaves home healthy, they are still stuck on a plane with potential carriers. I've largely stayed at home for the last 3 weeks, only leaving a couple of times to get groceries.
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:50 PM
 
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Uhhh... people know that testing isn't occurring at the same rates in all localities right? There could be hot spots we don't even know about.
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Old 03-29-2020, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Uhhh... people know that testing isn't occurring at the same rates in all localities right? There could be hot spots we don't even know about.
Yes, but the data still shows where to be more concerned.

If you look at my post I have the data of number of positive per number of tests. With that metric it doesn’t matter who tests the most.
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:22 PM
 
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Yes, but the data still shows where to be more concerned.

If you look at my post I have the data of number of positive per number of tests. With that metric it doesn’t matter who tests the most.
There could be areas that testing hasn't even gone to or has been done in extremely low numbers which could easily skew results.... we're now seeing bigger increases from states away from the larger population centers such as Idaho.. your positive per # of tests would only pertain to what states/areas are more concerning if it held at a constant throughout the pandemic. But if we're looking at it from purely a current situation with current testing done only then sure..

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Old 03-29-2020, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Oklahoma COVID-19 cases. Panhandle not spared. As of March 29, 429 tested positive and 16 deaths.



Oklahoma cases by gender:
Female 223
Male 206
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Old 03-29-2020, 08:29 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I have the answer in full detail.

Based on this data I would identify 7 legitimate hotspots as of now:
1) NYC and suburbs
2) New Orleans and suburbs
3) Albany, GA
4) Detroit and suburbs
5) Boston and suburbs
6) Ski resort areas of Colorado and Utah
7) Seattle and suburbs

I'm assuming you are including NJ in the "suburbs" of NY?



Living in NJ, it's quite scary considering last week, we jumped from 970 cases to 13,500 cases.


I don't even like to think about that percentage increase. NJ's increases alone are unlike anywhere else then possibly NY.
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Old 03-29-2020, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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There could be areas that testing hasn't even gone to or has been done in extremely low numbers which could easily skew results.... we're now seeing bigger increases from states away from the larger population centers such as Idaho.. your positive per # of tests would only pertain to what states/areas are more concerning if it held at a constant throughout the pandemic. But if we're looking at it from purely a current situation with current testing done only then sure..
For this data point it doesnt matter.

Look at California. Theyve been very aggressive about testing. Theyve preformed the 2nd highest number of tests of any state. The positive rate is still 5% which is very low.

Nobody is suggesting what will happen throughout the pandemic because no one knows. I shouldnt have to add a disclaimer saying "valid for a short time". You nor I can predict what will be this time next week.

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I'm assuming you are including NJ in the "suburbs" of NY?



Living in NJ, it's quite scary considering last week, we jumped from 970 cases to 13,500 cases.


I don't even like to think about that percentage increase. NJ's increases alone are unlike anywhere else then possibly NY.
Yes, of course. I was including NJ in the suburbs of NYC.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:12 PM
 
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For this data point it doesnt matter.

Look at California. Theyve been very aggressive about testing. Theyve preformed the 2nd highest number of tests of any state. The positive rate is still 5% which is very low.

Nobody is suggesting what will happen throughout the pandemic because no one knows. I shouldnt have to add a disclaimer saying "valid for a short time". You nor I can predict what will be this time next week.
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Im with you... I just don't like the message that some areas are more vulnerable or more concerning then others based on today's data. Healthcare availability and quality also differs by regions, as does testing capabilities and also the local culture in believing in science and sharing their symptoms, let alone a lack of standards in nationwide testing.... lots of variables exist. Again, if we're saying all of this purely based on data available today then sure, I'm with you.
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