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Town of Hempstead on Long Island. Only 150 square miles
Only 150 sq miles?! Thats freakin huge! It's bigger than ANY of the 50 cities and 301 towns in Massachusetts.
This is an example of how different the definition of "town" can be from state to state both in government jargon and casual usage. As I said earlier there are no suburbs of Boston much above 100,000 (Cambridge is 101k and Lowell 103k and neither is truly a "suburb") Mesa, AZ on the other hand is one of the biggest cities in the country! This seems to be due to the differences between the land area of towns from one region to another.
A question for those of you in sections of the country where municipalities take up significant land area (lets say 100 sq miles+): Do you usually identify with these municipalities or with smaller neighborhoods or villages within them? For example: I was in Great Neck, Long Island and everyone just said they were in Great Neck and were completely unaware of being in the town of North Hempstead (which I- being the kinda person who goes on C-D was well aware of)
Are there any areas of the country other than New England where the largest government area smaller than the state is towns of about 5-50 sq miles? (counties don't really matter much here either)
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For Philadelphia, the largest suburb could be considered Camden, NJ (pop. 79,318), although others may argue that -- because it is an independent city in and of itself -- it cannot be considered a suburb. In this case, Cherry Hill, NJ (pop. 71,586) would be considered the de facto largest suburb of Philly.
For Philadelphia, the largest suburb could be considered Camden, NJ (pop. 79,318), although others may argue that -- because it is an independent city in and of itself -- it cannot be considered a suburb. In this case, Cherry Hill, NJ (pop. 71,586) would be considered the de facto largest suburb of Philly.
Why wouldnt Camden be lumped with Philadelphia? The Census bureau lumps them together as part of the Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington Metropolitan Area.
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Only 150 sq miles?! Thats freakin huge! It's bigger than ANY of the 50 cities and 301 towns in Massachusetts.
This is an example of how different the definition of "town" can be from state to state both in government jargon and casual usage. As I said earlier there are no suburbs of Boston much above 100,000 (Cambridge is 101k and Lowell 103k and neither is truly a "suburb") Mesa, AZ on the other hand is one of the biggest cities in the country! This seems to be due to the differences between the land area of towns from one region to another.
A question for those of you in sections of the country where municipalities take up significant land area (lets say 100 sq miles+): Do you usually identify with these municipalities or with smaller neighborhoods or villages within them? For example: I was in Great Neck, Long Island and everyone just said they were in Great Neck and were completely unaware of being in the town of North Hempstead (which I- being the kinda person who goes on C-D was well aware of)
Are there any areas of the country other than New England where the largest government area smaller than the state is towns of about 5-50 sq miles? (counties don't really matter much here either)
There are about 15 towns in the TOWN of Hempstead. It's hard to explain how it works. All towns are part of a district, kind of. I'm finding it difficult to explain.
Why wouldnt Camden be lumped with Philadelphia? The Census bureau lumps them together as part of the Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington Metropolitan Area.
Camden is undoubtedly part of the MSA, but I was referring to the fact that Camden is also considered an independent city unto itself -- similar to Newark right across from Manhattan. Like Camden, many would express reservations about calling Newark a "suburb."
Camden is undoubtedly part of the MSA, but I was referring to the fact that Camden is also considered an independent city unto itself -- similar to Newark right across from Manhattan. Like Camden, many would express reservations about calling Newark a "suburb."
Largest suburb of San Antonio/New Braunfels pop. over 51,000
Largest suburb of Austin/Round Rock pop. over 92,000
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