Georgia passes Arizona type immigration law (Vidalia, Loganville: houses, neighborhood, military)

[testa50]

Originally Posted by blackhemi

From what I read, its not just a secondary offence. Certain crimes need to be committed. I dont know if I missed it, but does anyone have a link for the actual law?

Im curious to see how its written. Unless you have an arrest-able charge, misdemeanor or felony, they should not be checking status. If its written whereas an infraction can warrant the check, then that needs to be changed.

I believe this is the law as finally amended:

hb87_HB_87_APP_22.html

The sticking point is the definition of "criminal violation". In section 8, article 5:

" 'Criminal violation' means a violation of state or federal criminal law but shall not include a violation of a county or municipal law, regulation, or ordinance. "

then...

during any investigation of a criminal suspect by a peace officer, when such officer has probable cause to believe that a suspect has committed a criminal violation, the officer shall be authorized to seek to verify such suspect's immigration status when the suspect is unable to provide one of the following


My understanding is that speeding and other traffic violations are considered criminal violations by state code. So yes, I think they can check someone's status for driving 3 mph over the speed limit. Then again, I'm no lawyer.

[testa50]

Originally Posted by huddledmasses

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8...mmigration.pdf

Thank you.

To specifically address the absurd suggestion that the Social Security Earnings Suspense File is an invention of the New York Times, or whatever craziness was being said, see below:

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/ADOBEPDF/A-03-03-23038.pdf (broken link)

SSA noted that many suspended items involve the agricultural industry, which has transient employees who may not have work authorizations from the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).

[testa50]

Originally Posted by neil0311

**** YOU....how's that?

Pretty poor.

[huddledmasses]

Originally Posted by Daizi Girl

I am a Georgia native and feel that the state really needed this law. If only all the other states would follow suit. That way if one state beings actually enforcing our countries immigration laws and they feel the need to hop from state to state, the neighboring states would have a law also and they have no choice but to go back to where they came from. As we all know, Georgia has a large concentration of illegal immigrants(7th largest illegal population) and I don't see how any true American would allow their homes and country to be invaded by illegals. They lower the quality of life in once beautiful communities and have no respect for the laws of this country.

Some people are arguing that Hispanics will be racially profiled, but if you are here legally then you should not have to worried about being "profiled".

My family has been calling Georgia home for many generations and I would hate to see this state turn into another California.

Well the facts disagree with most of what you've said.

So you'd be fine with Mexican-American citizens sitting a weekend in jail because they got profiled and don't have their birth certificate with them? Do you carry your birth certificate? Would it be ok if you got confused for a Canadian and had to sit in jail because you didn't have proof of your citizenship?

[huddledmasses]

So Mexican American citizens should have to carry around their birth cirtificate if they want to go out in public? They don't need a green card, they are citizens. A drivers license isn't proof of citizenship.

[testa50]

Originally Posted by huddledmasses

So Mexican American citizens should have to carry around their birth cirtificate if they want to go out in public? They don't need a green card, they are citizens. A drivers license isn't proof of citizenship.

Actually, the new Georgia law does allow for a drivers license to be proof of citizenship AS LONG AS it is issued from a state that checks immigration status when issuing licenses.

This does not include Washington and New Mexico. Which happens to be a violation of the full faith and credit doctrine of the US Constitution, Article IV, Section 1.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by Daizi Girl

Um, you should carry a state issued ID, green card (if applicable) or have a valid driver's license when you go out. For example I always keep my driver license with me in my purse.

Excuses, Excuses... Nice try, but it is not working.

Oh, surely if you go out to exercise (jog, bike, and the like) you don't always carry your license. I'm sure I don't have my license on me 50% of the time I'm not at work.

[convextech]

neil/rc...you are arguing with the same person here with several aliases, and who is an employer that uses Mexicans for cheap labor. Of course they don't want the law. They are getting rich off the illegals.

[mike7586]

Originally Posted by Daizi Girl

I am a Georgia native and feel that the state really needed this law. If only all the other states would follow suit. That way if one state beings actually enforcing our countries immigration laws and they feel the need to hop from state to state, the neighboring states would have a law also and they have no choice but to go back to where they came from. As we all know, Georgia has a large concentration of illegal immigrants(7th largest illegal population) and I don't see how any true American would allow their homes and country to be invaded by illegals. They lower the quality of life in once beautiful communities and have no respect for the laws of this country.

Some people are arguing that Hispanics will be racially profiled, but if you are here legally then you should not have to worried about being "profiled".

My family has been calling Georgia home for many generations and I would hate to see this state turn into another California.

Wow, way to generalize. And it sounds like you just don't like Hispanic people...

Posts like this one make me embarrassed to live in this state surrounded by people like this.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by huddledmasses

So Mexican American citizens should have to carry around their birth cirtificate if they want to go out in public? They don't need a green card, they are citizens. A drivers license isn't proof of citizenship.

If any of them want to go back home, they need a passport or passport card anyway, and the latter is perfect for this sort of thing.

If I were living abroad, I know that I'd be carrying my passport card (at least) everywhere. Why ask for trouble?