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Old 05-10-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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Ok, now she’s delusional.

https://news.yahoo.com/georgia-democ...215804063.html

“Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams, a rising party star who narrowly fell short of becoming the first female African American governor last year, said on Thursday she is still considering running for president.”
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Columbus, GA and Brookhaven, GA
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Lol she has zero chance. She has been labeled a whiner and sore loser. No chance in hell that she ever comes remotely close to winning.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:39 AM
 
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I'd like to see here an Oprah run on the same ticket...….and LOSE.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:04 AM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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She missed it. The White House 10K Run was on March 10th 2019.

But there proboby will be another run Next Year.


https://www.active.com/washington-dc...-2019-49753461
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:26 PM
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She's trying to get the V-P nod. Someone described what happened to her is what happens when you hang around an echo chamber. She's peddling the lie that the election got stolen and pushing the delusion that Hillary had that Georgia was a swing state, which it wasn't in 2016 and won't be in 2020. So the Democratic presidential candidate will be spending time in Texas and Georgia and ignoring Wisconsin and Michigan again.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:11 PM
 
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I welcome her entering but I have to believe her advisors are telling her if she has a really bad showing her political career is over.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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She's trying to get the V-P nod. Someone described what happened to her is what happens when you hang around an echo chamber. She's peddling the lie that the election got stolen and pushing the delusion that Hillary had that Georgia was a swing state, which it wasn't in 2016 and won't be in 2020. So the Democratic presidential candidate will be spending time in Texas and Georgia and ignoring Wisconsin and Michigan again.
Yes I would hope she's trying to get a VP nod. If she's seriously trying to be a contender then I wouldn't vote for her. She had such a great run in the last election, but unfortunately it seems to be getting to her head.
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:56 AM
 
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Yes I would hope she's trying to get a VP nod. If she's seriously trying to be a contender then I wouldn't vote for her. She had such a great run in the last election, but unfortunately it seems to be getting to her head.
I’m not sure what she’d bring to the table as VP other than being a woman and a visible minority.

She has no expertise at the national level in politics and no other major accomplishments.

A less experienced Presidential candidate needs an experienced VP, and an experienced Presidential candidate needs someone who can bring votes from a swing state/region.

Given her actions post-election I’m not sure she’d enjoy playing second fiddle either. Most VPs are practically invisible.
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I’m not sure what she’d bring to the table as VP other than being a woman and a visible minority.

She has no expertise at the national level in politics and no other major accomplishments.

A less experienced Presidential candidate needs an experienced VP, and an experienced Presidential candidate needs someone who can bring votes from a swing state/region.
True about having no expertise in politics on a national level. Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Donald Trump didn't either.

Having "no major accomplishments" is an arguable point.

In 2002, at age 29, Abrams was appointed the Deputy City Attorney for the City of Atlanta.
After graduating from law school, Abrams worked as a tax attorney at the Sutherland Asbill & Brennan law firm in Atlanta, with a focus on tax-exempt organizations, health care, and public finance. In 2010, while a member of the Georgia General Assembly, Abrams co-founded and served as the Senior Vice President of NOW Corp. (formerly NOWaccount Network Corporation), a financial services firm.
Abrams also co-founded Nourish, Inc., a beverage company with a focus on infants and toddlers, and is CEO of Sage Works, a legal consulting firm that has represented clients including the Atlanta Dream of the WNBA.

Abrams represented House District 89, which includes portions of the City of Atlanta and unincorporated DeKalb County, covering the communities of Candler Park, Cedar Grove, Columbia, Druid Hills, Edgewood, Highland Park, Kelley Lake, Kirkwood, Lake Claire, South DeKalb, Toney Valley, and Tilson. She served on the Appropriations, Ethics, Judiciary Non-Civil, Rules and Ways & Means committees.
Abrams's first major action as minority leader was to cooperate with Republican Governor Nathan Deal's administration to reform the HOPE Scholarship program. She co-sponsored the 2011 legislation that preserved the HOPE program by decreasing the scholarship amount paid to Georgia students and funded a 1% low-interest loan program for students.
According to Time magazine, Abrams "can credibly boast of having single-handedly stopped the largest tax increase in Georgia history." In 2011 Abrams argued that a Republican proposal to cut income taxes while increasing a tax on cable service would lead to a net increase in taxes paid by most people. She performed an analysis of the bill that showed that 82% of Georgians would see net tax increases, and left a copy of the analysis on the desk of every house legislator. The bill subsequently failed.
Abrams also worked with Deal on criminal-justice reforms that reduced prison costs without increasing crime, and with Republicans on the state's biggest-ever public transportation funding package.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacey...usiness_career

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Given her actions post-election I’m not sure she’d enjoy playing second fiddle either. Most VPs are practically invisible.
Lest we forget Dick Cheney.

Vying for VP might be aiming a bit high, but given what we know about her now, a key position in a future Democratic administration might certainly not be out of the realm of possibilities.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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True about having no expertise in politics on a national level. Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Donald Trump didn't either.
Trump is the outlier and wasn’t even a politician. But he did have a national presence and brand.

Each of the others were governors, which by their very nature are like Presidents at the next level down. Reagan was also head of the actor’s union.

She’s at the same tier as Pete Buttigieg.

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Having "no major accomplishments" is an arguable point.

In 2002, at age 29, Abrams was appointed the Deputy City Attorney for the City of Atlanta.
After graduating from law school, Abrams worked as a tax attorney at the Sutherland Asbill & Brennan law firm in Atlanta, with a focus on tax-exempt organizations, health care, and public finance. In 2010, while a member of the Georgia General Assembly, Abrams co-founded and served as the Senior Vice President of NOW Corp. (formerly NOWaccount Network Corporation), a financial services firm.
Abrams also co-founded Nourish, Inc., a beverage company with a focus on infants and toddlers, and is CEO of Sage Works, a legal consulting firm that has represented clients including the Atlanta Dream of the WNBA.

Abrams represented House District 89, which includes portions of the City of Atlanta and unincorporated DeKalb County, covering the communities of Candler Park, Cedar Grove, Columbia, Druid Hills, Edgewood, Highland Park, Kelley Lake, Kirkwood, Lake Claire, South DeKalb, Toney Valley, and Tilson. She served on the Appropriations, Ethics, Judiciary Non-Civil, Rules and Ways & Means committees.
Abrams's first major action as minority leader was to cooperate with Republican Governor Nathan Deal's administration to reform the HOPE Scholarship program. She co-sponsored the 2011 legislation that preserved the HOPE program by decreasing the scholarship amount paid to Georgia students and funded a 1% low-interest loan program for students.
According to Time magazine, Abrams "can credibly boast of having single-handedly stopped the largest tax increase in Georgia history." In 2011 Abrams argued that a Republican proposal to cut income taxes while increasing a tax on cable service would lead to a net increase in taxes paid by most people. She performed an analysis of the bill that showed that 82% of Georgians would see net tax increases, and left a copy of the analysis on the desk of every house legislator. The bill subsequently failed.
Abrams also worked with Deal on criminal-justice reforms that reduced prison costs without increasing crime, and with Republicans on the state's biggest-ever public transportation funding package.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacey...usiness_career
Again, relevant at a national level. I’m not dismissing her accomplishments, but again, she’d be ranked with Pete and Beto. Not exactly meaningful on a national stage, especially if you’re running against Trump.

BTW, the NOW Corp, Nourish and Sage Works are likely all fluff roles that sound amazing but are probably self-promotional LLC type roles with limited success. Otherwise how could she have been in so much debt?

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Lest we forget Dick Cheney.

Vying for VP might be aiming a bit high, but given what we know about her now, a key position in a future Democratic administration might certainly not be out of the realm of possibilities.
Cheney was his own animal - the man tasked with finding a candidate who nominated himself.

But...a LOT more qualified than many other VP candidates:

United States Secretary of Defense (1989–1993),
Representative, WY At-large District (1979–1989),
White House Chief of Staff (1975–1977)


I do agree a key position is within her grasp. It would actually position her better for a future run for Governor or federal office.
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