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Old 07-22-2014, 08:06 PM
 
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I see nothing wrong with increasing the price of fatty food, but they need to lower the prices of healthier foods (fruits, vegetables, chicken)

So yes, I would support taxes on it.
As a pragmatic-libertarianish populist mainstream conservative type, I see at least two problems with that idea. One is the idea of more taxes that then would presumably fund more government bureaucracy (for all the reasons that people with my leanings object to these things). The other is the whole idea of trying to control people this way.

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Either way, people can and will eat however they wish, or whatever is within their means financially
And then there is the fact that for all those higher taxes and that expansion of government, it probably wouldn't work so well anyway, except maybe on the poor, who would be getting doubly screwed, since they may already have difficulty affording the more wholesome foods, and with this plan they would then be squeezed on the foods that at present they are able to afford.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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If cigarettes have health hazard warnings on the packaging, then I guess now, the government should start implementing same thing on foods not good for the body.
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:04 PM
 
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It is indeed like helmet and seat belt laws - and all if it is bunk.
What is "Bunk" about helmet and seat belt laws? Are you arguing that they don't save lives? Have you ever worked in an emergency room?
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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We could also disallow food stamps from purchasing junk food
I read a lengthy article about that in the "Washington Post" last year. The problem is, a typical American supermarket carries tens of thousands of brands and varieties of processed food. It would take forever for the F.D.A. to evaluate each item, and label each as "good" or "bad". And what if manufacturers tweaked or changed the ingredients after they had already been labeled "good" or "bad"? Then the item would have to be re-evaluated. The whole matter would also turn into a political football for the corn industry, sugar and cooking-oils industries, and others, as manufacturers, and Senators from the particular industry's or the commodity's State, would lobby to have their product labeled as "good."
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Clearly, the control-freaks are persistent.

Memo to them: stay out of my life and my refrigerator. We can spend our money any way we choose, and don't need prices to increase further to comply with more nonsensical labeling laws.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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I just ate a fat-filled dish of lamb. Red meat AND fat!

And even at 6 months pregnant I weigh less than most American women (BMI 20 right now).

Fat doesn't make you fat... it's the overall diet and overeating (on anything) that will do you in.Yes, processed sugary foods are easier to overeat on because they're addictive, but a calorie is a calorie.
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Old 07-31-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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But the obesity epidemic continues to rise. Why is this, and what should be done to stop it?
Education is not working. What other options can be pursued?
Obesity is not an epidemic. Why do we always seek to make a vice into a disease? Because that fits the comfortable philosophy known as determinism. That it just wasn't our fault!

Obesity is a personal choice. But no, the government should not be involved. People should be free to get as fat or thin as they want. Weight is a personal liberty.
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Old 08-01-2014, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Obesity is not an epidemic. Why do we always seek to make a vice into a disease? Because that fits the comfortable philosophy known as determinism. That it just wasn't our fault!

Obesity is a personal choice. But no, the government should not be involved. People should be free to get as fat or thin as they want. Weight is a personal liberty.
I agree obesity is a personal choice and should remain so.

Those that are obese should also feel the consequences of their choice. Don't ask the government, or society at large to accommodate that choice.

Too big to fit in the airline seat? Buy two seats. Clogged arteries? Your cost to treat them should be felt more by you than by others in the insurance pool. Can't pass the physical test to be a fireman? You don't get that job.

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Old 08-01-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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I just ate a fat-filled dish of lamb. Red meat AND fat!

And even at 6 months pregnant I weigh less than most American women (BMI 20 right now).

Fat doesn't make you fat... it's the overall diet and overeating (on anything) that will do you in.Yes, processed sugary foods are easier to overeat on because they're addictive, but a calorie is a calorie.
To a point. Your body metabolizes food differently. IE, a high sugar diet leads to insulin spikes which promotes your body storing those calories as fat. Also, dietary fat isn't the enemy. It's the sugar that is tossed into anything processed. Personally I avoid sugar and it's various forms like it's a poison. I'll still eat it in its natural state, ie in fruit etc. But fat? I eat quite a bit of it, and yet I'm very fit. I think people have gotten the wrong idea about fats in this country. It's sugar, people. Sugar - avoid it.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:19 PM
 
Location: NEPA
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Howcome we didn't have a obesity epidemic in the sixties and seventies when i was growing up? Processed food was at a minimum and kids went outside and played, simple. Get rid of processed food, it's killing us and get the kiddies off the game stations and outside.
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