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Old 03-04-2011, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Inner city schools, would NOT be in the same districts, as schools in affluent areas. And there is a world of difference, between schools in the affluent suburbs, and those in the inner-cities.

If the parents of poor children 'don't care' as much as they should, about their children's education, it could be because the parents are too busy trying to keep their kids fed, clothed, and housed.
Wrong again.

[Insert city name here] (Unified) School District almost always includes both the inner city and suburb schools.

 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Here's a link to an article, that explains the lack of food choices, in the poorer areas of Oakland, CA: Oakland’s food divide – Oakland North : North Oakland News, Food, Art and Events
Even if it is true, then that would be one more reason why I would move to the suburbs and away from crummy neighborhoods, By Any Means Necessary
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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How did you come to this conclusion?

I think all those slaps to your forehead are starting to have a negative effect.
Anybody with a lick of sense, can see that our country is less compassionate than ever, towards the poor. It wasn't that way in the 60s, and I don't think you've been alive long enough, to see see that difference between the 60s and now!
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Even if it is true, then that would be one more reason why I would move to the suburbs and away from crummy neighborhoods, By Any Means Necessary
Have you ever thought about going to the ghetto, and lecturing the residents about how to be able to afford to move out?
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:09 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX, USA
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Wrong again.

[Insert city name here] (Unified) School District almost always includes both the inner city and suburb schools.
We don't have Unified Schools Districts in my city. We have independent school districts that are clearly separated. Two school districts serves middle class and upper class students in the suburbs, 5 school districts serve lower income students in the inner city and 2 others are rural.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Have you ever thought about going to the ghetto, and lecturing the residents about how to be able to afford to move out?
I don't need to. People are already lecturing them and have been doing so for 50+ years. Either they aren't listening to the advice or they don't want to take it or they are incapable of taking it.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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We don't have Unified Schools Districts in my city. We have independent school districts that are clearly separated. Two school districts serves middle class and upper class students in the suburbs, 5 school districts serve lower income students in the inner city and 2 others are rural.

OK, I didn't know that about your city in Texas. I'll bet it is an exception.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Placerville
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For some time now, America has done all it can, to destroy the poor; denying them decent housing, healthcare, access to nutritious foods, a quality education, and making it more and more difficult, for them to improve their lives. In the 60s, the poor were seen as valuable enough to society, to be helped to rise up out of poverty. Do you think that the poor will ever again be considered valuable enough in society, to be truly helped to escape poverty, once and for all?
You have got to be kidding.

We feed, house, and clothe the poor. They have access to health care many in the middle class don't have. K-12 education is available to anyone living in this country, rich, poor, and illegal alike. We provide grants for community colleges and universities.

And we do this to the point that as long as it edible, doesn't have alcohol and isn't warm at the time of purchase, it can be bought at the taxpayer's expense. This include potato chips, candy, soda, and any kind of bakery goods such as birthday cakes. And there is a push to throw in restaurants. We provide housing for the poor in neighbourhoods of all socio-economic levels.

What more do you want?

As far as being valued, the poor have never been valued as a group anywhere. There is nothing wrong with being poor, but if you look at that group as a whole there are quite a few things going on that make you question what is going on in their heads.

Just a few of the things...

If you drive through a low-income neighbourhood you start to wonder how it is that people who aren't working never manage to find the time to maintain the landscaping in front of their homes.

May low-income neighbourhoods have trash in the streets.

Crime and vandalism is a problem.

Quite a few of them seem to have a fair collection of cars. Cars are expensive.

They smoke and drink at a much higher rate than the rest of the population. Both are very expensive.

They complain about their economic status in life even though they have cable TV, several cell phones, the latest televisions, iPods and Blue-Ray players.

Of course this isn't all of them, but if you drive through poor neighbourhoods you are invariably going to see quite a few of them walking around yakking on cell phones, listening to their iPod, driving cars with $1800 large wheels, smoking, or drinking.

Then there is their lack of decorum which makes them undesirable to live around.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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OK artwomyn, since you seem to feel so passionately about this. What do you think should be done? Specifically, I mean...not just a "do more" or "make it better" type of answer.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The poor are valuable to the people that exploit them for votes by keeping them dependent on the politicians for handouts.
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