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Old 02-09-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Back in the Southland
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No, they are cowards who expect Western countries to fight the radical ones. So many of our men and women in the military have died doing this and for what? Muslims bite the hand that feed them.
That's why Jordan, the Kurds, Iraqi militias and Iranian volunteers are fighting ISIS right?
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Old 02-09-2015, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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I guess that you've been asleep for years?

Christians have marginalized the WBC. In fact, when the WBC shows up to protest at military funerals, groups of Christians show up to act as shields. In other words, they surround the WBC members to spare the grieving families.

As for the KKK, oh where to begin---Christians marched against them during the Civil Rights era. They also worked to marginalize them and pushed to have the worst of the worst arrested and jailed---even if it took years.

Compare that to Muslims in the Western world. Whenever brave Muslims speak out against what is wrong with Islam (treatment of women, girls and gays, for example), they are left twisting in the wind as no so-called "moderate peace-loving" Muslims stand in unity with them. Those brave Muslims end up with fatwas on them. There is a man in the Twin Cities, a Somali Muslim, who is working tirelessly to try and keep young Somalis from joining terror groups. None of the "moderate peace-loving" Muslims will work with him. He does this work without any pay. When he tries to go to mosques to ask if he can talk to their youth, many have refused him entry.
No, The Patriot Guard protects the families from WBC. Some of them may be Christian, but the organization only asks that they have "a deep respect for those who serve our country". No religious affiliation required.

Where are the Baptist churches calling for WBC to disband? Where are the Baptist churches picketing WBC? Why don't we see Baptist leaders on TV every day calling WBC out as non-Christian?

Where are the other Christians? Are they picketing the WBC every time they meet? Are they making televised speeches against WBC?
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Old 02-10-2015, 07:31 AM
 
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No, they are cowards who expect Western countries to fight the radical ones. So many of our men and women in the military have died doing this and for what?
For Oil and personal gain. USA didn't spend over decade in Iraq out of kindness of their heart or to police a country that was going out of control. It was there for personal gain. Now because of USA involvement the country and its neighborhood is in worst shape than it was before we jumped in. ISIS and the likes are popping everywhere united by similar mission of hating USA. Where is the weapon of mass destruction we were so worried about? That weapon is ISIS

To the OP: what good do you think a protest will do to stop ISIS? Protest are usually done to let your own government know where the people stand & bring awareness to those who aren't informed to join in on the movement. The ultimate goal is for the government to hear your voice. ISIS has its own area & could care less what people in other country might protest for. I remember reading they controlled so many oil field that if ISIS was a nation they would be one of the richest in the world, that is why they don't need support from other governments.
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Old 02-10-2015, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The primary reason the Muslims do not protest or try to stop ISIS is FEAR. The protestors would have no effective legal protection for their governments. They would be beheaded, burned or hanged after the ritual raping of their females no matter how old. They are living in effectively lawless societies where vengeance and terror are the only certainty.

There is no way the West, mostly the USA, can do anything about this so we should just get out of the entire area. The Israelis can protect themselves and the oil will remain safely underground while these fools kill each other for their own reasons. We should let then get on with their self immolation.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:40 AM
 
Location: USA
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Why don't Christians do something about Westboro Church and the KKK? They are "Christian" groups.
That's like comparing an ant climbing up your foot as your getting charged by a Rhino. I Don't see either of those groups as being responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths, tortures, rapes and enslavements in the last year alone like Radical Islamist groups.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/...oups-the-11687

List of designated terrorist organizations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:34 PM
 
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No, The Patriot Guard protects the families from WBC. Some of them may be Christian, but the organization only asks that they have "a deep respect for those who serve our country". No religious affiliation required.

Where are the Baptist churches calling for WBC to disband? Where are the Baptist churches picketing WBC? Why don't we see Baptist leaders on TV every day calling WBC out as non-Christian?

Where are the other Christians? Are they picketing the WBC every time they meet? Are they making televised speeches against WBC?
Hmmm...The WBC hasn't hijacked any planes and flown them into buildings. Nor do they kill anyone in the name of Christianity. Yes, they are a despicable group but they are on the fringes and are not violent. With groups like that, marginalizing them and not taking them seriously is far more effective.

Why are you so afraid of the WBC? What did they do to you? If you are so afraid, then go picket their church. What's stopping you?

Compare WBC to the various Muslim terrorist groups. Mull that over for a while.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Huge crowd of Muslim protesters picket Downing Street to protest at Charlie Hebdo cartoons - Telegraph

Huge crowd of Muslim protestors picket Downing Street to protest the Charlie Hebdo cartoons. Yet a huge crowd of muslims is NOT protesting ISIS, or doing anything about ISIS' spread in the middle east, or their beheadings of non-Muslims.

Is Islam a safe religion to have in non-Islamic countries? Why don't muslims ever do anything about the more radical muslims? Wouldn't they, as muslims, be able to exert more control over ISIS and other radical muslim groups than non-muslims would?

Isn't their refusal to stop ISIS a tell on what they actually think about sharia law and muslim fundamentalist violence?

This whole ISIS eruption is just business as usual in the middle east. They've been known for mindless hatred and cruelty for thousands of years before the rise of Islam; this is nothing new.

The fact that Saudi, Jordan, and Turkey are doing next to nothing about this tells me all I need to know about how "horrible" it all is.

Not our problem to solve.

We can't care more about the middle east than the middle easterners do, and they're obviously not all that concerned.

Let it bleed. It isn't worth the life of a single US serviceman.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The reason we are still there is our military is using it as a training ground and a place for officers to get the Combat Infantry Badge that is vital to career advancement and lots of politically connected war contractors are making huge profits from our spending. The fate of our soldiers and/or the peaceful people in the Middle East is irrelevant to these people that control our policy.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:50 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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This whole ISIS eruption is just business as usual in the middle east. They've been known for mindless hatred and cruelty for thousands of years before the rise of Islam; this is nothing new.

The fact that Saudi, Jordan, and Turkey are doing next to nothing about this tells me all I need to know about how "horrible" it all is.

Not our problem to solve.

We can't care more about the middle east than the middle easterners do, and they're obviously not all that concerned.

Let it bleed. It isn't worth the life of a single US serviceman.
This is true, as I have seen it also. I just wonder if they will ever change their ways and actually do something to stop the violence. It seems many want to leave the Middle East and live in a Western country, but once they are in a Western country, they don't care anymore about the violence that is perpetually occurring in the Middle East. Unless like the Charlie Hebdo case, where they flew from Libya to France just to murder a bunch of cartoonists.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:58 PM
 
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This whole ISIS eruption is just business as usual in the middle east. They've been known for mindless hatred and cruelty for thousands of years before the rise of Islam; this is nothing new.

The fact that Saudi, Jordan, and Turkey are doing next to nothing about this tells me all I need to know about how "horrible" it all is.

Not our problem to solve.

We can't care more about the middle east than the middle easterners do, and they're obviously not all that concerned.

Let it bleed. It isn't worth the life of a single US serviceman.
Did you miss this :

Jordan launches airstrikes against ISIS

Bahrain getting involved: http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...ight-ISIS.html

UAE: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/wo...isis.html?_r=0
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