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Old 08-25-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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I have always wondered if welfare gives poor people a reason to have babies that they could not otherwise afford on their own. Do you think that the generosity of of tax dollars incentivizes these people to be irresponsible and if we changed welfare through reform would it greatly reduce the cycle of poverty. The reason I ask is that it really angers me when I see poor people having so many kids and are rewarded for it. It really does disgust me. What do you all think?

 
Old 08-25-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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Do believe some have made a career of it. Others have just had bad luck.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Prescott
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Of course it does. The more babies they push out the more money they get from us tax payers. And society has embraced these women, who most often, these unwed poor welfare mothers, are under-educated and lazy women who see the Free Ride and take it. They were once pariahs but no more. Not with the advent of the Nanny State and the Obama Nation which basically only seeks to re-distribute the Wealth. You know: Socialism. Thank God big changes are on the way! Mark my words. This thread reminds me of one of my most hated recent terms/words of society: "Baby Daddy." As in, says the fat smoking drinking minority welfare Mom, "He's not my husband, only one of my Baby Daddies." All the while Making it sound so, I don't know, capricious and lacking the gravitas of what this really means: yet another child born out of wedlock into a poor home with no real role models at home, heading for most likely a life like their mom's. Thus the vicious circle continues. I don't see it as much now since I work at a college and most of these women are educated, savvy, and from middle-class or higher homes. But for years I lived in Los Angeles, and then Oakland, and Wow, just wow. Disgusting.

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Old 08-25-2015, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Most "bad luck" is irresponsibility and because of welfare there is no incentive to be responsible.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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Most "bad luck" is irresponsibility and because of welfare there is no incentive to be responsible.
Do you think politicians can change the current welfare system? I realize welfare was created to help people in tough times like when people get laid off but it was not meant to be abused. I know that many women get pregnant by multiple baby daddy's and never marry because there is more money being a single mom. That is sick in my opinion and encourages a life of dependency.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 09:03 PM
 
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the babies who are made as insurance for welfare end up in foster homes, adoption agencies and in prisons as they get older. That's if they're not crack babies. You have worthless human beings who make lots of other humans who often end up worthless. I say sterilize these welfare queens. Useless garbage. This is why I am in favor of eugenics.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 09:15 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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Do you think politicians can change the current welfare system? I realize welfare was created to help people in tough times like when people get laid off but it was not meant to be abused. I know that many women get pregnant by multiple baby daddy's and never marry because there is more money being a single mom. That is sick in my opinion and encourages a life of dependency.
When this topic comes up on CD, it's confusing, because I thought it already did change. Didn't B. Clinton do something to that effect around 20 years ago?
I suppose every state has its own policies, but where I've lived single mothers are required to either obtain and hold a job or be in some kind of training/education program.
 
Old 08-25-2015, 10:37 PM
 
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"Encourage"? No.

"Make less stigmatized?" Perhaps.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 12:47 AM
 
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I have always wondered if welfare gives poor people a reason to have babies that they could not otherwise afford on their own. Do you think that the generosity of of tax dollars incentivizes these people to be irresponsible and if we changed welfare through reform would it greatly reduce the cycle of poverty. The reason I ask is that it really angers me when I see poor people having so many kids and are rewarded for it. It really does disgust me. What do you all think?
No, low self-esteem and low self-worth do.

The lack of welfare would not discourage single motherhood. They'd just live with their parents/other family, as some do now. Poor people do not intend/set out to have babies just to receive welfare. There is no "generosity" in the form of tax dollars, as what most people receive is a pittance.

The cycle of poverty starts at home, and is generously reinforced by society.

I challenge you to give it a try. See how "fun" it is, then report back.
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:49 AM
 
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"Encourages"? No

"Requires"? Yes

If a woman is married to a man with a good paying job, she is not eligible for welfare. If she divorces him, she is.
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