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Old 09-02-2015, 05:58 AM
 
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Caffeine indeed has many benefits: lowering cholesterol; improved alertness and concentrational abilities; anti-oxidant properties; and it can even improve athletic performance sometimes.

Do you have source for this?

In order to reduce the addiction or effects, I take it with milk and sugar. And of course there is this horrible headache once in a while which ends up in me throwing up the residue ( a kind of acid that settles in the stomach) . Yet I cannot leave it.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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Everything is a problem. But some problems are more important than others. Caffeine addiction is not an important one.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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Well if you are looking for confirmation bias that it is, this person covers "how bad it is" to just about every aspect of your body:

http://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Dance-.../dp/1412050006

I am very "pro-caffeine" but everything in moderation of course.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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I think people have different tolerance levels for caffeine. I am not sure if some have built up a tolerance or if it just has to do with a person's biology. I can have a cup of coffee and practically take flight while my husband could have 6 cups and sit there. But I noticed his family on both sides could drink coffee before bed and then go to sleep. The quality of my sleep though is superior when I avoid coffee entirely.

I am sort of a "control" type person, an addiction is out of the question and obsession with anything to me is morally wrong. There are people who are addicted to a lot of different chemicals and others taking in an equal amount of the chemical and not becoming addicted. Biology of the individual?

Addiction to me equals your means of escaping something and you can't let go.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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Technically according to medical literature, their isn't a lot of negative side effects from long term use of and there are some supposed benefits to caffeine... but do you think that it is significantly more healthy not to be addicted to caffeine than to be addicted?
It is a problem and it's COMPLETELY downplayed because it makes everybody more productive.

I got to the point of drinking 3 cups of coffee a day and I was constantly getting headaches.
Quit drinking coffee a few years ago (really difficult to do) and my headaches were gone.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:41 AM
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I read the book History of Coffee last year, and I learned there's a 9-story caffeine research building in Paris, manned with research scientists, their job is to defend the entire caffeine industry.

Good luck with coming up with any negative reports on the adverse effects of caffeine, as this group is so powerful, and so well-funded, they'll trounce on any research group that's going to undermine the profits of the caffeine industry!

Some time ago, some research scientist, laid claims to the deleterious effects of Agent Orange on the coffee plantations in Vietnam (35% of coffee comes from Vietnam, by the way) and that damaging story disappeared pretty fast!

Oh jeeze. Conspiracy theorist nut jobs without critical thinking skills everywhere. Even on the food pages.
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Well if you are looking for confirmation bias that it is, this person covers "how bad it is" to just about every aspect of your body:

http://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Dance-.../dp/1412050006

I am very "pro-caffeine" but everything in moderation of course.
According to the reviews, shes a person with an allergy and that's the premise if the bad effects.
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It is a problem and it's COMPLETELY downplayed because it makes everybody more productive.

I got to the point of drinking 3 cups of coffee a day and I was constantly getting headaches.
Quit drinking coffee a few years ago (really difficult to do) and my headaches were gone.
It does make people more productive by keeping them alert and doing better and boring repetitive tasks, so I think people will take it despite whatever health effects they might have heard or think it has on them. The headache and sleeplessness are the two most common I've heard from people I've talked to.
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Oh jeeze. Conspiracy theorist nut jobs without critical thinking skills everywhere. Even on the food pages.
Well, ultimately the experience is about you. Looking at the marijuana thread, it's clear it's definitely not effecting people the same way. As long as you can filter out your own placebo effects, I think sometimes you are your own best doctor when it comes to nonserious issues like caffeine. Looking at the history of "research" on pshycoactive drugs, I'd say it's best to be more skeptical than new research in fields like economics.

And for energy drinks, they have a ton of other stuff in them besides caffeine that does a lot of the boosting, so isolating on caffeine as the only active ingredient (as many do) for energy drinks isn't accurate. I don't drink them.
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:23 AM
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About the time I cut back back to 6 cups a day I began starting off the morning with three tall glasses of water about an hour or more before I start in with the coffee. The coffee does not have the diuretic effect it use to have when I was drinking the water after the coffee.
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Thriftylefty, so you basically drank that much coffee because that was the thing to do, kind of like a social activity when people were around?
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Old 09-02-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Outskirts of Gray Court, and love it!
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I was addicted to caffeine! Didnt matter what form. Drank a full pot of coffee before 9(I got up at 6), 2 2 liter Pepsis before lunch, usually another 2 liter and at least 4 energy drinks before 4, and would stop on my home and get another cup of coffee, or a large sweet tea or something for the ride home. Before I went to bed at 9, I would drink at least a gallon of tea. One day I passed out at work, had to be rushed to ER. My heart rate was 297bmp. Doc said I was lucky my heart hadnt "exploded". I havent had caffeine since and that was 14 years ago.
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