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Old 03-29-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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so, went in to see the orthopedist for my hip and knee yesterday and he confirmed what I already suspected..... the hip is worn OUT, as a result of congenital hip dysplasia..... he did say my several times repaired knee looks pretty good and that the random pain it was causing was likely a result of the change in my gait from the hip damage......

I do not want to think about surgery right now, so am going to get a cortisone shot in the hip next Monday..... crossing my fingers that that works for the hip as well as it did for the knee for a while.....

When I asked him if I could have something to help me sleep better at night, as the pain wakes me up with regularity, he suggested Tylenol PM.....
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:51 AM
 
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Something is not right here

Gabapentin has for a side effect a cure for restless leg syndrome. This is EXACTLY what I experienced with it and considered it a "pleasant surprise".

Gabapentin is not for muscle or tissue pain and will not offer relief for them

On the other hand opiates are woefully inadequate when it comes to offering relief from nerve pain

By the time you shut down nerve pain with an opiate, the patient is at best "knocked out" for all normal day time functions, and much closer to a dangerous overdose than any "real" doctor treating nerve pain will subject their patients to

Constant nerve pain is so many light years WORSE than all other pain, there is no realistic comparison that can be made
I have quoted my own post because one week after making this post when at the recommendation of a veterans administration on call nurse I turned myself into a local emergency room for high blood pressure, (175-to 190 over 120 to 140) where I was then told by the emergency room that the reason for my high blood pressure was the result of the veterans administration failure to properly maintain my pain levels.

However, when I went back and told this to my doctor she accused me of lying and going to the emergency room to obtain drugs one week after making the above post proving that I did not believe opiate drugs would be of any help for the nerve pain that I was suffering from.

When I complained to the patient advocates office about the doctor and her nurse, the doctor upped her accusations to include that I stopped taking other drugs for pain just so that I could get narcotic drugs for pain. Then she called me in for a mandatory alcohol intervention program even though I had uncontrolled pain and BP levels but would've given her complete direct control over the length of my confinement and any release. However, I have been at the hospital for five days now and told them this but they have not noticed any effect from alcohol abuse in either my emotions (other than being upset over being falsely accused) or in my physical conditions that included scans all of my body. Meanwhile before coming to the hospital my pain levels had gotten so bad including pain that has caused me to gasp while emitting sounds that are not human and afraid to move less it return, had reduced me to sitting in a recliner other than short breaks for time needed to complete the barest of life's necessities........... I have been now told the extreme pain is caused by tumors pressing on my spinal core that the protective hards cover has been eaten away in numerous places

The drug I am accused of stopping to use so I could get narcotics in its place is the drug "Gabapentin" that I had a terrible reaction that despite making my neck pain blamed on rheumatoid arthritis neuropathic pain much worse, it caused a near total failure of both knees as well as my left ankle. Within 7 to 10 days of stopping this drug that is known to be having negative side effects for other persons as well, both of my knees came back online as well as my ankle

However, the worst news is after nearly 2 years since originally complaint of shoulder and neck pain that involving three incorrect diagnosis made by my doctors at the VA, the final and fIrst correct diagnosis has been made by local civilian hospitals is cancer of the upper spine that because of the delay in being addressed correctly due to the faulty treatment and diagnosis of the Veterans Administration, cannot be expected to result in anything more than a fatal outcome for me without a divine intervention

The best hope for by whom I consider and am confident are very highly qualified medical personnel at the most rewarded hospital in the area is to keep me from spending a significant time paralyzed and losing the use of both arms and legs a significant time before any expected passing from "natural causes"............. In other words it is down to end of life quality of life rather than saving my life albeit I have complete confidence in the medical staff here doing all that can be possible done to help me..........something the VA was not able to take the first step towards doing in almost two years (22 months).

All of this is because I made the fatal mistake of trusting the veterans administration to represent my health care interests

Unfortunately this is turned out to be not just a terrible mistake for me but the worst one possible.

My one trust I have is in my Father in Heaven Who will work out everything for my best and His Will be done.

Doug

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Old 04-02-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I have quoted my own post because one week after making this post when at the recommendation of a veterans administration on call nurse I turned myself into a local emergency room for high blood pressure, (175-to 190 over 120 to 140) where I was then told by the emergency room that the reason for my high blood pressure was the result of the veterans administration failure to properly maintain my pain levels.

However, when I went back and told this to my doctor she accused me of lying and going to the emergency room to obtain drugs one week after making the above post proving that I did not believe opiate drugs would be of any help for the nerve pain that I was suffering from.

When I complained to the patient advocates office about the doctor and her nurse, the doctor upped her accusations to include that I stopped taking other drugs for pain just so that I could get narcotic drugs for pain. Then she called me in for a mandatory alcohol intervention program even though I had uncontrolled pain and BP levels but would've given her complete direct control over the length of my confinement and any release. However, I have been at the hospital for five days now and told them this but they have not noticed any effect from alcohol abuse in either my emotions (other than being upset over being falsely accused) or in my physical conditions that included scans all of my body. Meanwhile before coming to the hospital my pain levels had gotten so bad including pain that has caused me to gasp while emitting sounds that are not human and afraid to move less it return, had reduced me to sitting in a recliner other than short breaks for time needed to complete the barest of life's necessities........... I have been now told the extreme pain is caused by tumors pressing on my spinal core that the protective hards cover has been eaten away in numerous places

The drug I am accused of stopping to use so I could get narcotics in its place is the drug "Gabapentin" that I had a terrible reaction that despite making my neck pain blamed on rheumatoid arthritis neuropathic pain much worse, it caused a near total failure of both knees as well as my left ankle. Within 7 to 10 days of stopping this drug that is known to be having negative side effects for other persons as well, both of my knees came back online as well as my ankle

However, the worst news is after nearly 2 years since originally complaint of shoulder and neck pain that involving three incorrect diagnosis made by my doctors at the VA, the final and fIrst correct diagnosis has been made by local civilian hospitals is cancer of the upper spine that because of the delay in being addressed correctly due to the faulty treatment and diagnosis of the Veterans Administration, cannot be expected to result in anything more than a fatal outcome for me without a divine intervention

The best hope for by whom I consider and am confident are very highly qualified medical personnel at the most rewarded hospital in the area is to keep me from spending a significant time paralyzed and losing the use of both arms and legs a significant time before any expected passing from "natural causes"............. In other words it is down to end of life quality of life rather than saving my life albeit I have complete confidence in the medical staff here doing all that can be possible done to help me..........something the VA was not able to take the first step towards doing in almost two years (22 months).

All of this is because I made the fatal mistake of trusting the veterans administration to represent my health care interests

Unfortunately this is turned out to be not just a terrible mistake for me but the worst one possible.

My one trust I have is in my Father in Heaven Who will work out everything for my best and His Will be done.

Doug
I would highly HIGHLY suggest you start making noise. Go to every news outlet you can think of and tell your story (Fox News would be most likely to pick it up). Get ahold of congress people like Trey Gowdy's office and start making lot's and lot's of NOISE.
I'm sorry to hear the position you've been put in, I'd be mad as hell and would probably use what time I've got left to make sure the world knows how I was treated by the agency that was supposed to help.
I'd get ahold of every GOP candidates campaign and relate the story, it is an election year after all and finally I'd find the biggest,baddest blood sucking attorney I could and go head hunting.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have family member who is a pain pill addict she got hooked years ago after she fell off a cliff and injured her back. The last 20 years she has been coming up with all kinds of problems to get the pills. Joint pain, stomach pain, Headaches it's always different. I didn't believe it until I saw her for my self and she would go on and on about how everything just hurt and all she needed was Vicodin. My wife gave her some she had left over from the dentist to help her she wasn't convinced she watched her take 6 Vicodin all at once then she looked normal the rest of the day like you wouldn't even know she was on anything. She had built such a tolerance to it and was so addicted. I feel bad for her I wish she would get help she is a nice person. The problems lie in drug manufactures need to find a way kill the pain without the addiction. I'm always suspect of people who have a laundry list of aliments and somehow the only thing that works is Narcotic pain pills.
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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I would highly HIGHLY suggest you start making noise. Go to every news outlet you can think of and tell your story (Fox News would be most likely to pick it up). Get ahold of congress people like Trey Gowdy's office and start making lot's and lot's of NOISE.
I'm sorry to hear the position you've been put in, I'd be mad as hell and would probably use what time I've got left to make sure the world knows how I was treated by the agency that was supposed to help.
I'd get ahold of every GOP candidates campaign and relate the story, it is an election year after all and finally I'd find the biggest,baddest blood sucking attorney I could and go head hunting.
I have been thinking along thee lines but not so much the big dollar lawsuit.......... as it is it would never come to be in th expected time frame that I am looking at and I am single. But I do have a nephew who is a brilliant attorney and is fearless

My main goal is I have a lot of brother and sister vets who need to be protected against going through what I am having to endure......... and I do plan to do whatever I can so they never get treated like I have been

As far as the personal part.......... at this point in my life I am more about forgiving and praying for the recovery of others so they no do not commit the same sin again. Like when Jesus said "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." they knew what they were doing but what they did not understand was why they were doing it to an innocent man and what was the driving force of evil causing them to do it.

Some of these people at the VA are being controlled by an evil force, not because they are evil people but because all people have an evil entity living within them that is either in control or is controlled over by a higher force either from the "good" coming from the same tree of knowledge evil comes from. (that evil can and does defeat on regular basis) Or, and much better being controlled by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ in their lives that is only found in those who have been baptized with the Holy Spirit that is from above and is divine rather than from earth as the spirit of man is (tree of knowledge of good and evil)

Maybe it is time I finally get to move on and I am okay with being dead.......... just that dying sucks big time as does pain.

Meanwhile there is evil in the VA that needs to be exposed so others are not harmed as I was especially those with loved ones who depend on them and IMO are worth me sticking my neck out for.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:59 PM
 
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I would say most people do not need narcotic pain relief. I have never needed it and I have had some very serious injuries, surgeries and given child birth twice without pain meds. I was induced with pitocin with my first child and still didn't need pain meds or an epidural.

Ibuprofen works for me without that loopy feeling that the narcotics cause.
I had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy 33 years ago. Whatever they gave me for pain after the surgery had me unconscious for 24 hours. Terrified my husband. When I did come to, doctors asked me how my pain was. Not bad. After that they gave me just Extra Strength Tylenol (no Codeine), no Narcotics in the hospital. Maybe they didn't like my reaction to the drugs? I was not given any pain script to take home.

I have had countless dental surgeries since childhood. Given Percoset about 10 years ago for major dental surgery. Husband kept telling me I needed my "pill". Took half a pill. Again just about out cold, and when I did wake up about 6 hours later, I could not get up and walk around without feeling like I was on Mars. Horrible. I do not want to feel like that ever again. Given the problem we now have, I guess too many people like that loopy feeling from pain meds.

I have been chased to my car by a Dental Receptionist a few years ago for not taking my Tylenol with Codeine script after a tooth extraction. She gave me an argument in the parking lot when I said I do not want or need it. "DOCTOR says you will be be in PAIN". If you read my first paragraph, what was the comparison? Dentist knows my personal pain?

Even 2 months ago, this came up with another Dentist. When I said no script, he said to me he had another patient (old like me) say the same, and next day (??) was calling him on the phone begging for pain meds. I said to him won't happen with me. I tore up the script at home, which I probably could filled and have sold on the streets for nice change. Don't they get this? Next time I went to that Dentist, as soon as he saw me, he said, "Well, you were right and I was wrong". Do they check to see if you fill their scripts?

Why do they think that everyone's pain is exactly the same?Why do they get MAD when you don't want pain meds?
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:36 AM
 
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Is it too easy, too hard, or about right to get drugs through legal channels? Obviously doctors who abuse their prescribing privileges are in the minority, but should standards be tightened or left where they are?
People who desperately need or want narcotics will get them legally or illegally.

You can try to make it harder and harder for doctors to write pain med prescriptions but what do you think you are really accomplishing in doing this?
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Old 04-03-2016, 04:02 AM
 
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As far as the personal part.......... at this point in my life I am more about forgiving and praying for the recovery of others so they no do not commit the same sin again. Like when Jesus said "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." they knew what they were doing but what they did not understand was why they were doing it to an innocent man and what was the driving force of evil causing them to do it.
Yes they do know what they are doing. Every single medical professional employed at the VA or at any other patient care facility knows exactly what they are doing.
There are also policies and procedures that every patient care facility is required to have in place. All personnel are trained and signed off on these policies and procedures before they can do their jobs.

Ever heard of CMS? They oversee the regulations.
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all people have an evil entity living within them that is either in control or is controlled over by a higher force either from the "good" coming from the same tree of knowledge evil comes from.
Nonsense. I can guarantee that I don't have an evil entity living within me.

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Maybe it is time I finally get to move on and I am okay with being dead.......... just that dying sucks big time as does pain.
I hope you find peace in your coming days.

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Meanwhile there is evil in the VA that needs to be exposed
Not evil but possibly incompetent or just don't care. It's not just the VA. All over the US you will find incompetent doctors and nurses causing harm.
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Old 04-03-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Yes they do know what they are doing. Every single medical professional employed at the VA or at any other patient care facility knows exactly what they are doing.
There are also policies and procedures that every patient care facility is required to have in place. All personnel are trained and signed off on these policies and procedures before they can do their jobs.

Ever heard of CMS? They oversee the regulations.
Nonsense. I can guarantee that I don't have an evil entity living within me.

I hope you find peace in your coming days.

Not evil but possibly incompetent or just don't care. It's not just the VA. All over the US you will find incompetent doctors and nurses causing harm.
I would submit that there are good doctors/nurses trapped in a system run by incompetents more worried about themselves than the Vets they're supposed to serve. I would also submit that there are incompetent medical drones (doctors/nurses) in the VA that keep their jobs just because of the fools running it.
Maybe it's time to either overhaul the system or shutter it. Maybe just transfer it all to Medicare?
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Atlantis
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The must be easy to get. A buddy of mine just stopped by and was pressing down / crushing something on my kitchen counter, then snorted it.


I asked him what it was and said 'oxy'. And said he had 'percs' and 'vics' too.


I'm just enjoying some Redhook IPA and Jim Beam on ice with a splash of Sprite.
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