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Old 04-05-2016, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Groveland, FL
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This monster is set to be executed in Texas tomorrow. Read the case and give me your best argument of why this guy deserves to live after what he did to this young boy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-tex...163155627.html
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Old 04-05-2016, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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He probably doesn't. But it's not about whether he deserves to live - it's about whether a civilized society has the right to take the life of any citizen. I know that's awfully complex for the "kill 'em all!" crowd to comprehend, but it is what it is.

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Old 04-05-2016, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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This monster is set to be executed in Texas tomorrow. Read the case and give me your best argument of why this guy deserves to live after what he did to this young boy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-tex...163155627.html
As William Muny said: "Deserves got nothing to do with it".

I'm not willing to cede to the state the power to take the life of a citizen.

Beyond that, it's not particularly effective. I live in Minnesota, where we have one of the lowest violent crime rates in the country. And we don't have capital punishment. We also have the second-lowest incarceration rate in the nation.

Now that's what I want from the criminal justice system - a low crime rate, and we're not spending money hand over fist to incarcerate and execute people (yes, the appeals process involved in capital punishment is costlier than simply housing someone for the duration of a life sentence).

You can keep your feel-good measures that do nothing but distract the populace from the violence they're suffering because the authorities are too busy creating spectacles instead of actually reducing crime.
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Old 04-05-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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Only reason I'm against it is cause what if the person you are killing is innocent? It has happened.
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Old 04-05-2016, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Groveland, FL
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Only reason I'm against it is cause what if the person you are killing is innocent? It has happened.
Understandable. However, this piece of trash admitted what he did.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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He probably doesn't. But it's not about whether he deserves to live - it's about whether a civilized society has the right to take the life of any citizen. I know that's awfully complex for the "kill 'em all!" crowd to comprehend, but it is what it is.
I'm with you, Croc. It's not about who he is. It's about who we are.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:26 PM
 
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6th commandment - thou shall not kill.


btw, how's the real estate market in Mount Dora/Lake County these days?
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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[quote=Hoot N Annie;43614511]6th commandment - thou shall not kill.


You obviously do not understand this command.

Multiple translations exist of the fifth/sixth commandment; the Hebrew words לא תרצח (lo tirtzach) are variously translated as "thou shalt not kill" or "thou shalt not murder". The imperative is against unlawful killing resulting in bloodguilt.

It can not mean what you think it means for this reason. God commands the death penalty for many offences. These would be considered lawful killings and are not contrary to the 6th commandment.

By the way,I'm opposed to the death penalty myself, not because the guilty do not deserve it but because of a far from perfect justice system that finds many innocents guilty.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This monster is set to be executed in Texas tomorrow. Read the case and give me your best argument of why this guy deserves to live after what he did to this young boy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-tex...163155627.html
He's insane?
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:28 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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This monster is set to be executed in Texas tomorrow. Read the case and give me your best argument of why this guy deserves to live after what he did to this young boy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-tex...163155627.html
I agree with the death penalty in principle as the appropriate punishment for certain crimes. When someone murders another person in cold blood he forfeits his own right to life. It's justice, and it ensures that he will not murder anyone else.
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