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George Jorgensen, the first surgically-altered transgender person (or at least the first well-known one) was not given a hostile response at all, although he was viewed as an oddity. He carried on a successful career giving speeches in his female persona. Whether they paid admission to hear what he had to say or just to see the results of his change, is not certain. He also made many appearances as a nightclub singer and was in some movies.
But he was fortunate to be able to generate a good living. Many later transgender men fell on hard times, unable to find work and couldn't pay for continued hormone treatments. It's a sad fate that awaits most of them, which many of them who undergo the procedures, must just brush-off and ignore, until it's too late.
That's an interesting concept, though not really true.
I mean, if it were, I, as a cisgender heterosexual person, would know no gay or transgender people, and certainly not spend time or be friends with them.
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This is interesting, as while I'm certainly not a fan of the media, I've never gotten the impression that they were exaggerating numbers of transgender people.
Though, with that said, I do wonder about the idea that the media is "force feeding" an issue that is out there. The reality is that, yes, many people will not know about these issues as they go about their daily lives- but does that make them unimportant?
The problem is that until 'transgender' became a thing a few years ago, you WEREN'T cisgender, you were just a man or a woman (sorry, I'm not familiar with your posting history ).
Taking the initiative to rename another group to legitimize your own is Social Engineering 101. Having it accepted is a home run.
The problem is that until 'transgender' became a thing a few years ago, you WEREN'T cisgender, you were just a man or a woman (sorry, I'm not familiar with your posting history ).
No, actually, I've been cisgender for almost the past 44 years. Taking it in it's simplest form, I identify as the gender that I was assigned at birth.
It's really not a conspiracy- just a way to differentiate between those who are transgender and those that are not.
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Taking the initiative to rename another group to legitimize your own is Social Engineering 101. Having it accepted is a home run.
It's not a "renaming". It's a method of distinction when one is speaking about these matters.
No, "cisgender" is not a slur.
ETA: And the term would probably not even be necessary if people accepted transgender women as women, and transgender men as men. So long as people are digging their heels in about this distinction, the use of the term "cisgender" (as a very linguistically applicable term) is not going to disappear.
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Because one doesn't know if the person in the next stall is an natural or artificial. You can't tell by the sounds or smells so you have to assume that everyone is questionable, even yourself.
The idea of gender was created by John Money, a sexologist and pedophile who experimented with toddlers. A twin boy had a botched circumcision, so he decided to make him into a girl. He worked with both children, encouraging them into sexual positions, mimicking adults, showing them pornography. These were CHILDREN. His experiment was 100% unsuccessful, the child rejected the "chosen" identify and reverted back to being male. As adults, it is thought that BOTH boys committed suicide (one was a drug overdose that may/may not have been intentional, the other took a shotgun to his head).
This is the ORIGIN of the IDEA of GENDER. Please do real research to understand HOW gender became a buzzword. It has a lurid, disgusting history that is filled with child abuse. Yet today it is being championed and praised in the media at every. single. turn.
You cannot outrun your DNA. And "transgender" has absolutely nothing to do with being gay. Nothing. Gay people do not want to change who they are. They just want to choose who they have sex with.
No, actually, I've been cisgender for almost the past 44 years. Taking it in it's simplest form, I identify as the gender that I was assigned at birth.
It's really not a conspiracy- just a way to differentiate between those who are transgender and those that are not.
It's not a "renaming". It's a method of distinction when one is speaking about these matters.
No, "cisgender" is not a slur.
ETA: And the term would probably not even be necessary if people accepted transgender women as women, and transgender men as men. So long as people are digging their heels in about this distinction, the use of the term "cisgender" (as a very linguistically applicable term) is not going to disappear.
You weren't assigned a gender at birth. No one is.
Babies are identified as being male or female, they are identified by biological sex.
That's an interesting concept, though not really true.
I mean, if it were, I, as a cisgender heterosexual person, would know no gay or transgender people, and certainly not spend time or be friends with them.
I have never in my life ever heard a man describe himself as cisgender. That's hilarious.
You weren't assigned a gender at birth. No one is.
Babies are identified as being male or female, they are identified by biological sex.
You can't outrun your DNA.
My birth certificate says differently. I was identified as female because of my genatalia. Fortunately, my genatalia and my identity match. This is not how it is for transgender people.
Yup, you can't outrun your DNA, which might very well tell you that though you have a penis, you are not male.
If I decided that I am really a legless person that was born into a body with legs, would a doctor amputate my healthy legs?
Seriously asking
It's been done. Not by a good doctor, mind you...
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Because one doesn't know if the person in the next stall is an natural or artificial. You can't tell by the sounds or smells so you have to assume that everyone is questionable, even yourself.
