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Elon Musk: "I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. If I had to guess at what our biggest existential threat is, it's probably that. With AI we're summoning the demon."
Bill Gates: "I don't understand why some people are not concerned."
If you think the Hackers are having fun now, just wait!!! Wait until they hack into one of these self-driving cars or semi-trucks!
"A self-driving car sped up, crossed the center line, killing 7 people!"
That's all it will take! A Hacker having some fun!
Not really. The population is very much controlled by the media and our leaders in all walks of life.
There is a phenomena of cognitive dissonance at work in society or maybe it is a form of mass brainwashing or programming. People are aware of serious threats but automatically dismiss them. Examples such as a nuclear arsenal capable of extinguishing all life on earth has existed for over 50 years, but no one takes note of it. Medical errors and preventable hospital infections and prescribed drug interactions kill 400,000 a year, but people and the news media pretty much ignores it. A 14 year war that has accomplished nothing but destruction, but people are basically indifferent. If driversless cars kill less than the 40,000 people a year that human driven cars do, the media will declare it a victory for driverless technology.
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Originally Posted by tijlover
Elon Musk: "I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. If I had to guess at what our biggest existential threat is, it's probably that. With AI we're summoning the demon."
Bill Gates: "I don't understand why some people are not concerned."
If you think the Hackers are having fun now, just wait!!! Wait until they hack into one of these self-driving cars or semi-trucks!
"A self-driving car sped up, crossed the center line, killing 7 people!"
That's all it will take! A Hacker having some fun!
Elon Musk: "I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. If I had to guess at what our biggest existential threat is, it's probably that. With AI we're summoning the demon."
Bill Gates: "I don't understand why some people are not concerned."
If you think the Hackers are having fun now, just wait!!! Wait until they hack into one of these self-driving cars or semi-trucks!
"A self-driving car sped up, crossed the center line, killing 7 people!"
That's all it will take! A Hacker having some fun!
Before online banking became a thing, many people were worried hackers could go in and steal money out of accounts, go in and just add a bunch of zeros to their balance, etc. so far this has not been a huge problem, Id imagine similar protections will be put in place on driverless cars.
What’s better, 2 high paying robot management jobs, or 0 jobs?
It matters to governments who provide tax incentives, based on the number of jobs a new company will bring to the area. Those 2 high-paying jobs won't have the economic impact that the aforementioned 2 dozen jobs would have had. If an entire factory brings, let's say 35 high-paying jobs, but ties up a bunch of acreage and electricity, should a local government be providing tax incentives to attract it?
Over the past several weeks, there have been multiple threads about illegal immigrants taking jobs from Americans. But I find it odd how no one is talking about the increasing trend of automation and the increasing online marketplace is affecting the labor market.
There hasn't been much discussion of brick and mortar retail chains closing up shop, undergoing massive layoffs and bankruptcy.
We are talking about thousands of stores closing and thousands of people now out of work.
Currently congress is debating how to handle the deployment of autonomous vehicles. This could be a threat to thousands of delivery drivers. Certainly in the next decade they may be put out of work as well.
But I ask again why aren't people concerned about this?
Who is this "no one"? The anti-manufacturing people are beating this drum constantly as the explanation for job loss in manufacturing, now that there is a possibility of drawing back some of the free-trade policies of the last 40 years.
Obviously automation is why manufacturing jobs are in the decline. All you have to do is look at all the highly automated factories through the American Midwest, making all our consumer goods. All those TVs, computers, smartphones, electrical appliances, shoes, clothing, bicycles, and so on, all made in the USA, in those highly automated factories, right? Oh, wait, you mean those things are actually being made in low labor cost countries in highly labor intensive factories with minimal automation?
Another fact that the anti-manufacturing people don't want to admit is that a large number of jobs in manufacturing are not direct labor (people who work on the line). Accounting, purchasing, machine maintenance, facilities maintenance, industrial sales, tool and die making, raw materials, etc., are all sources of employment derived from a factory that do not go away when a process or processes are automated. But if you move the factory out of the country, they will not continue to buy cutting tools or j!gs and fixtures from US suppliers, they will switch those things to the overseas vendors as well.
Yet another item is that automation of a factory proceeds slowly, so the surrounding communities can absorb job losses; if 30 people lose their jobs every year when a particular process is automated, those 30 people a year probably won't drive the decline and death of the whole town where they live. But if you fire all 500 at once because you move the factory, the community is likely to have serious trouble absorbing them. They won't be able to sell their houses and move away readily because everyone else will be trying to sell too, so they take it in the shorts there, and so on and so on.
And yet one more item is national security. The USA has essentially allowed the rolling element bearing industry in this country to go away. You try to make any kind of military equipment without a regular supply of rolling element bearings. Now imagine that you are at war with - oh, for example, China - where the majority of the US rolling element bearing industry has gone to. Big trouble. There are numerous examples like this where entire industries critical to national defense have been allowed to relocate away from the US. (How well will modern military equipment work if there are no LCD screens available?)
Automation allows fewer people to do work. In the past companies rely on workers to produce and it's not the most efficient or cost effective way to do business.
Today more and more businesses choose to outsource jobs that are difficult and expensive to retain with automation and simply hire cheaper workers to maintain automation.
When you needed 10-50 people to do filing or create reports and forms at a business you can simply automate this and have people submit the forms online then hire people from India on a really cheap rate to handle the computing work to automate this stuff. Why bother hiring Americans.
Before online banking became a thing, many people were worried hackers could go in and steal money out of accounts, go in and just add a bunch of zeros to their balance, etc. so far this has not been a huge problem, Id imagine similar protections will be put in place on driverless cars.
That's not really the concern about AI.
AI killing drones (they are already being made). AI soldiers (they are trying to make these - the robot that can backflip has already been made). Those are some of the concerns.
Automation - not really a concern for most people. AI automatons - is a concern.
Robots don't ever question why they have to work all the weekends and holidays, yet the brand new, younger model robot works M-F only.
Some world leader called Americans lazy a couple or three decades ago...
The self-drive car seems so luxurious for the low and middle class folks, and makes them feel sort of like an important pampered CEO, with a well-deserved chauffeur of sorts.
Realistically...it's gonna be more like - You don't drrrrrrrrrrrive car, car drrrrrrrrrrrive you!
Let something or somebody do something for you, it or they will eventually do it to you.
State Troopers and Highway Patrol are loosing some Radar jobs to toll booths that automatically calculate the time it takes a vehicle to get from one booth to the next.
Get to the next one a little too fast...you get a speeding ticket in the mail.
Relax though, the whole human race gets rid of the fluff, keeps (and sometimes clones) the best whenever it gets the chance, each in their own way...
Less workers/more output
Less plants/more and higher output
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