Is this the end game?

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by guidoLaMoto

How many wild turkey flocks still exist in MA?
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Tons. Tons and tons and tons. The population is so large that the hunting season can't touch the numbers. Even the proposed increase in seasons won't be able to touch the population.

There are so many that many consider them a nuisance. Like deer (can't harvest enough). Like the large and ever growing bear population. Wildlife is thriving throughout the state.


I've seen one wolf in Wisconsin. Crossed in front of me on Habelman Rd in the central sands region. Wonderful that they are rebounding. Of course, you have the dimwits that think the reintroduced elk are just there for the wolves. Yikes. Anti science types disgust me. It's really too bad that under the Thompson administration they relaxed environmental rules and allowed unfettered bog construction to chase cranberry money. The environmental destruction from that won't be fixed in my lifetime, if ever.

[guidoLaMoto]

Originally Posted by timberline742

It's really too bad that under the Thompson administration they relaxed environmental rules and allowed unfettered bog construction to chase cranberry money. The environmental destruction from that won't be fixed in my lifetime, if ever.

-glad to see MA has some good habitat remaining (I'm not familiar with the area). Deer & turkeys aren't animals of the forest- they live on the edges of forests, and with all the roads that have been cut thru the woods, we have greatly increased habitat for them.


The growing problem in WI now is the re-organization of the dairy industry from many, small dairy farms to just a few, very large, mechanized operations. (I compare it to change in auto manufacturing a century ago-- many small operations hand building cars one at a time to the immense assembly line system.) All those cows concentrated in lots puts a lot of manure in a small area, allowing the watershed to be overwhelmed with run-off, and the high capacity wells the concentrated operations need are sucking the local water tables down.


The fight has turned political when it should be scientific, looking for a solution that satisfies both the economics as well as the environmental concerns....Times change. We're just not going to return to the 1880s and single families on 40 ac milking 12 cows a day.


We gotta adapt. Evolution involves changes on both sides to keep in balance.