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Old 09-27-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Cigarettes are proven to be harmful/deadly. This is why there are labels saying so. If GMO is not harmful/deadly, there should be no reason for a warning label.
A "contains GMOs" label provides consumer information. Some readers may take this as a positive thing, some as a negative. It's analogous to providing nutrition information on a label; the reader can decide e.g., whether low fat is a good thing or a bad thing.
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:09 PM
 
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A "contains GMOs" label provides consumer information. Some readers may take this as a positive thing, some as a negative. It's analogous to providing nutrition information on a label; the reader can decide e.g., whether low fat is a good thing or a bad thing.
I know, that is why I am for GMO labeling.
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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If we are going to label all foods that have been genetically modified, we need to go ahead and put the label on all food. Humans have been genetically modifying their food for thousands of years. The current form of tomatoes and corn have almost no resemblance the their original "wild" forms. Cattle are highly modified from their "wild" brethren. In the past, you picked the plant that performed the best and used it in future generations to hopefully pull its positive traits forward. Over time, this resulted in significant modification of plants and animals. No one has to prove that these changes are safe.

In most cases, the newer methods for modifying foods area safer. Instead of cross breeding changing multiple genes, we can now modify single genes, causing fewer unwanted side effects. Unlike traditional cross breeding, GMOs have been tested and monitored to show they are safe.

Countries that have banned GMOs have done so due to fear mongering by science deniers and the ignorant masses. Yellow rice by itself could wipe out the major cause of acquired blindness in Africa. It is a safe food that has been blocked due to fear mongering.

I do worry about foods where say fish genes are put into tomatoes and think that type of modification should be avoided. The vast majority of GMOs, however, are simply placing specific genes from one plant into another to improve drought tolerance, increase yield, or improve vitamin content. Those GMOs are no less (and in fact are probably safer) than foods modified by selective breeding.
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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The vast majority of GMO foods that we ingest are the corn, soy, and wheat crops that have been modified to be immune to the effects of Roundup. Which means those crops have been directly sprayed with a lot of Roundup.

I challenge anyone to read the label on a bucket of Roundup and think that it's a good idea to eat this stuff.

That's why I would like a GMO label: to know which foods have been repeatedly soaked in pesticides.

It's also why I buy organic.
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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The vast majority of GMO foods that we ingest are the corn, soy, and wheat crops that have been modified to be immune to the effects of Roundup. Which means those crops have been directly sprayed with a lot of Roundup.

I challenge anyone to read the label on a bucket of Roundup and think that it's a good idea to eat this stuff.

That's why I would like a GMO label: to know which foods have been repeatedly soaked in pesticides.

It's also why I buy organic.
...Do you not wash your produce?
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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...Do you not wash your produce?
Washing will NOT get rid of the DNA within the Product..course IF one does NOT bother to realize GMO has been around for decades.

Much of the side affects..and baby's born with al sorts of aberrancy's at birth..then try to point to all sorts of other things..are in denial...most fetus who developing get exposed via mother's nutrition..so why does anyone make excuses of what diet and those food products( meat/produce) that they are exposed to that COUD cause such deformities/disabilities.

There are so many birth defects that develop post birth most refuse to even acknowledge and tend to blame the mom who was forced to sustain themselves on whatever they could afford..Blame..Blame..Blame other's excluding those corporate sponsors of grand GMO productions of food stuffs!!! ..who BTW have profited ..They have no liability..SMH!
The Dangers GMOs Pose to Children's Health

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The American Academy of Environmental Medicine states that GMO foods "pose a serious health risk in the areas of toxicology, allergy and immune function, reproductive health, and metabolic, physiologic and genetic health and are without benefit."

What can a concerned parent do to protect their children from GMOs? Buy organic foods, preferably certified organic options, which do not allow organic foods to be grown from GMO seeds.
I retired back in 2013 and nursing since 1970..and have never seen such Child serious reactions to allergies of other issues..It's a real problem....yet those proponents want to suggest there's no proof...Course in order to Prove it..one needs to have data..and THAT Data is withheld by Industry..( hidding the ball) then demand to prove it..they need a huge data base to do that!..

But as a HC provider..I saw so much..I just can't fathom the depth and breath of the affects of diddling with DNA of any plant product that being introduced to diet/tables and never ever means tested or even Clinical tested as any DRUG would be required to do BEFORE being accepted by FDA..SO once again Lobbyists gained the system!! Corporations GAIN..Hunan Beings suffer and have irreparable damages with no warning and no way of proving a G D Thing!!
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:51 PM
 
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...Do you not wash your produce?
Roundup is absorbed into the plant and ends up in the seed / kernel. See a study in Food Chemistry.
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:16 PM
 
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If we are going to label all foods that have been genetically modified, we need to go ahead and put the label on all food. Humans have been genetically modifying their food for thousands of years. The current form of tomatoes and corn have almost no resemblance the their original "wild" forms. Cattle are highly modified from their "wild" brethren. In the past, you picked the plant that performed the best and used it in future generations to hopefully pull its positive traits forward. Over time, this resulted in significant modification of plants and animals. No one has to prove that these changes are safe.
Selective breeding vs gmo are two totally different and unrelated things.

Inserting monkey fetus genes via a laboratory into a tomato has nothing to do with selective breeding for vigorous strains of cattle or corn that has taken place for 100k years.


Also, no, you cannot "wash" produce to remove gmo and roundup, these things are taken up on a cellular level inside the plants.
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Old 09-29-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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...Do you not wash your produce?
As was pointed out, Roundup is absorbed by the plant. Rinsing is fairly useless.

BTW, the meat you eat is fed Roundup crops, and so the meat you eat has Roundup in it too.

Oh, and YOU HAVE ROUNDUP IN YOU.

Ithaka-Journal für Terroirwein, Biodiversität und Klimafarming » Blog Archiv » Herbicides found in Human Urine
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:40 AM
 
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The vast majority of GMO foods that we ingest are the corn, soy, and wheat crops that have been modified to be immune to the effects of Roundup. Which means those crops have been directly sprayed with a lot of Roundup.

I challenge anyone to read the label on a bucket of Roundup and think that it's a good idea to eat this stuff.

That's why I would like a GMO label: to know which foods have been repeatedly soaked in pesticides.

It's also why I buy organic.
This is a common fallacy. Roundup is highly effective, which is why it is so widely used. Roundup ready crops allow farmers to directly apply a small amount of round up to the plants, knowing that they will survive. With traditional crops that aren't roundup ready, the entire field is often sprayed with a larger amount of roundup prior to the growing season instead of a much smaller application.

Most organic farming uses even more pesticides. Organic farms use less effective organic pesticides which often require larger, more frequent applications to be effective. Until very recently, no one did extensive studies of the possible harmful effect of organic pesticides because it was thought that they were safe because they were naturally occurring. Turns out many of these organic pesticides are also carcinogenic.

For the safety of the environment and people, you want to use the least amount of pesticide possible whether it is an organic or synthetic pesticide. The effectiveness of Roundup allows less to be used as opposed to organic pesticides like rotenone.

The lethal dose of roundup is much larger than the lethal dose of many "natural" pesticides like rotenone.

Natural versus Synthetic Chemicals Is a Gray Matter - Guest Blog - Scientific American Blog Network
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