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Duncan Town Council approved the first reading of an ordinance at their Tuesday, 8 August 2017, meeting that would place restrictions on yard sales. If the ordinance is passed in its second reading at Duncan Town Council's Tuesday, 12 September 2017, meeting, yard sales would require permits and would not be allowed on Sundays.
I can see why there might be a need to limit these kinds of sales in residential areas. I've seen a few homes on busier streets that have "yardsales" almost weekly, creating traffic issues and hassles for their neighbors on a frequent basis. I'm generally against added permits and regulation. Why not just limit these kinds of sales to no more than 3-4 a year per property or something similar without adding a permit which will require more unnecessary paperwork and cost for the town?
I don't understand the exclusion of Sundays. Municipalities should be removing the old Sunday blue law ordinances, not creating more of them.
I can see why there might be a need to limit these kinds of sales in residential areas. I've seen a few homes on busier streets that have "yardsales" almost weekly, creating traffic issues and hassles for their neighbors on a frequent basis. I'm generally against added permits and regulation. Why not just limit these kinds of sales to no more than 3-4 a year per property or something similar without adding a permit which will require more unnecessary paperwork and cost for the town?
I don't understand the exclusion of Sundays. Municipalities should be removing the old Sunday blue law ordinances, not creating more of them.
Without a permit, however, how would it be easily enforceable to ensure there isn't a weekly garage sale? I just can't see a limit of "x number of sales each year" being enforceable without permitting.
Without a permit, however, how would it be easily enforceable to ensure there isn't a weekly garage sale? I just can't see a limit of "x number of sales each year" being enforceable without permitting.
No Sunday sales is completely ridiculous.
If this is really about a small number of individuals being a problem, you send the cops out to their sale and write them a warning each week. Once you have more then 4 warnings in a year, you could then write a ticket. If it is truly a small number of people like the article implies, that method would require less work and less intrusion than requiring a permit for each individual yard sale.
Can those who don't believe in Jesus have G Sales on Sunday! Religious Jews can't go, or have a garage sale on Saturday's, so what's Jew to do? Though I highly doubt that would be a huge problem in Duncan.
In SoFla, where my parents live, the City Beautiful requires permits and has a lot of restrictions on what they will allow when having a garage sale. PLUS, you need to pay $31, so you better hope you make more than that to pay for the permit. Needless to say, it's a PITA to have one where they live. You are only allowed to have 2 a year, and cannot have 2 within a 30 day period. Forget trying to have en estate sale!
In the Miami-Dade, they tried enforcing not being able to put signs up on county property, whether it be a pole, a street sign, a right of way, median, etc. For a little bit of time they had code enforcement take your signs down if they saw them and come slap you with a fine for each sign. You were suppose to get a permit, but I don't think many people did it. But, that didn't last too long, they didn't have the manpower to have someone go do such menial work, collecting signs, and it fell to the wayside. At least that's how it was when I moved over 7 years ago.
I thought a good idea on the sign issue, is if you left your sign up more than 1 day after the sale, THEN you could get a fine for each sign left up. Again though, manpower just wouldn't be worth it.
In SoFla it's usually a one day sale, rarely do you see people do it for 2 days. Here in the Upstate, it seems quite common for 2 days. I find people here, for the most part, seem to remove their signs upon completing their sale. Much more courteous up here about that.
Use to love going to the sales but don't any more, I need to downsize and get rid of and have my own garage sale soon. But, once in a blue moon, if I'm passing one and have a hankering to stop, I will.
I hope Duncan can come up with a nice easy resolution and not be so restricted to residents with garage sales. I like WhitewaterVols idea, but think the police are needed elsewhere and don't need to do that as part of their job. County Code Enforcement would be better suited to do that.
Can those who don't believe in Jesus have G Sales on Sunday! Religious Jews can't go, or have a garage sale on Saturday's, so what's Jew to do? Though I highly doubt that would be a huge problem in Duncan.
In SoFla, where my parents live, the City Beautiful requires permits and has a lot of restrictions on what they will allow when having a garage sale. PLUS, you need to pay $31, so you better hope you make more than that to pay for the permit. Needless to say, it's a PITA to have one where they live. You are only allowed to have 2 a year, and cannot have 2 within a 30 day period. Forget trying to have en estate sale!
In the Miami-Dade, they tried enforcing not being able to put signs up on county property, whether it be a pole, a street sign, a right of way, median, etc. For a little bit of time they had code enforcement take your signs down if they saw them and come slap you with a fine for each sign. You were suppose to get a permit, but I don't think many people did it. But, that didn't last too long, they didn't have the manpower to have someone go do such menial work, collecting signs, and it fell to the wayside. At least that's how it was when I moved over 7 years ago.
I thought a good idea on the sign issue, is if you left your sign up more than 1 day after the sale, THEN you could get a fine for each sign left up. Again though, manpower just wouldn't be worth it.
In SoFla it's usually a one day sale, rarely do you see people do it for 2 days. Here in the Upstate, it seems quite common for 2 days. I find people here, for the most part, seem to remove their signs upon completing their sale. Much more courteous up here about that.
Use to love going to the sales but don't any more, I need to downsize and get rid of and have my own garage sale soon. But, once in a blue moon, if I'm passing one and have a hankering to stop, I will.
I hope Duncan can come up with a nice easy resolution and not be so restricted to residents with garage sales. I like WhitewaterVols idea, but think the police are needed elsewhere and don't need to do that as part of their job. County Code Enforcement would be better suited to do that.
Just my 2 cents.
Code enforcement might be a better resource.
For your previous point of fining for signs not being worth the effort - just increase the amount of the fine until it becomes profitable for the municipality. I would honestly like to see that for the cheap disposable roadside signs in general. It looks junky to have 10-15 cheap plastic signs in various states of decay at every major intersection in the area. If I need to lose weight in 30 days, hire a handyman, buy mulch, or sell my home for cash, I'll ask friends and family for references - I won't be using the guy on the cheap plastic sign. Political signs are a whole other issue. I think there were more signs posted for the last special election in Anderson county than votes in the election.
Do the Town of Duncan and Spartanburg County have ordinances limiting how long signs can remain at intersections, along roads, utility posts, and street signage?
There is no way I'd want the cops of any city I'm living in to be forced into yard sale duty tickets when there is always more pressing concerns for them to worry about. Code enforcement is good, but then you possibly get into overtime issues with having them work on a weekend - which is why I'd be for a small fee for a permit to offset that overtime.
In the town where we live half the year and own our house, there is a garage sale ordinance, new as of 2012 due to the never-ending garage sales some were running. A permit is $5 and allows for 3 signs. If the signs don't come down at the end of the sale, they can't get another permit. Maximum of 3 sales per year. They are supposed to be for a maximum of 3 days, but most people do a Thursday-Sunday sale and it's accepted by the city.
IIRC, for about the first year of the ordinance, they had code enforcement out on the weekends to enforce/inform. Since then, we've never seen anyone making the rounds to check for permits.
Of all of the stupid ordinances we have, the garage sale is one that I've never heard a complaint about. Hopefully Duncan can work out something similar.
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Religious Jews can't go, or have a garage sale on Saturday's, so what's Jew to do? Though I highly doubt that would be a huge problem in Duncan.
